The Partition of Ireland

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Ireland: the home of gorgeous coastal mountains and grassy plains. Yet, despite the beauty and charm, the island of Ireland has a long history of conflict. So much so, that the island is split into two *not physically of course*. In our Season 2, World History premiere, Jac takes us through the conflict between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland .

Sources:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/a-history-of-ireland-for-outsiders-from-henry-viii-to-the-troubles-1.3816898

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Transcript

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hello everybody and welcome back to

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another episode of how did we not know

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that

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i’m Nat i’m jack and we’re back

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with season two

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so exciting so exciting um yeah it’s

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season two this season we’re going to be

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talking

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about world history so we have a lot of

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fun and exciting topics coming your way

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so

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today jack i i actually don’t know what

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you’re going to talk about

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today i’m going to talk about ireland

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for our irish viewers who are so

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dedicated we see you

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wow shout out to our irish viewers

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yeah so actually i’m gonna talk about

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let’s just get right into it happy

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season two

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missed you guys very excited so

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nat did you know that ireland is

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actually split

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isn’t it like northern southern ireland

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but i honestly like i hear about

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like issues going on with north north

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and south ireland today but i don’t know

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the history behind it yeah me neither

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i never knew i yeah i knew that um

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actually no i really didn’t know much i

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thought i heard that like ireland was

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part of the uk

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and it wasn’t part of the uk and then i

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wasn’t sure

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what was going on there and so actually

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ireland like is an island like the

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actual

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just like the name of the island is

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called ireland

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and that’s an island for our viewers who

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are like

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not familiar of the location of ireland

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it’s an island that’s off

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western europe and it’s in the atlantic

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sea so it’s like

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north west from europe

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europe it’s like the northwest section

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it’s not in like

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yeah is it closest to england like is it

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like right off the coast or is it yeah

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it’s like right off the coast of england

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okay and um yeah so

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that island is split into two parts with

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the south being called

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ireland like what we we formally know is

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ireland or the republic of ireland

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and then the north is northern ireland

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and it’s actually part of the uk

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okay yeah so then records of like

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the island of ireland date back to

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forever

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like ten 000 a.d prehistoric times

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there’s records

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and then they’re like it’s very well

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recorded

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everything that happened in ireland so

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we’re actually going to start in 500 bc

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with the arrival of celts

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so around 500 bc

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people immigrated to ireland and that

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group of people

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were called celtic people was like

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celtic heritage

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and that was that later became known

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as the dominant irish ethnic group

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okay and so the religion uh

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well actually do you know why i like

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ireland split can you take a guess

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isn’t it like one half of it they’re

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protestants and then the other half is

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like catholic

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yeah literally so it’s a it’s a witch

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yeah okay we’ll talk about it it’s

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really interesting um

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but yeah i know basically it’s like a

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religious

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difference and

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we’re gonna go back but the celts that

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like um settled ireland

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had religious beliefs that were not the

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same as the main world and so

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any time that you have differing like

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beliefs at least back then

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from like the dominant religions you’re

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called

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pagan so that religion that celtics

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practiced was called paganism

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and it wasn’t until the 5th century so

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that’s 400 bc

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when a 16 year old boy from roman

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britain

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was kidnapped and roman britain is not

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like england it’s like another i can’t

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really describe it that well but it’s

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he’s kidnapped from

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like a different area the 16 year old

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boy

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this is just like a fun fact and he um

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he’s taken to ireland as a slave

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and then he escapes ireland and

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he goes and like studies catholicism so

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the

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okay the major religion at the time is

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catholicism

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at least like that form of christianity

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there’s like judaism

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i know you’re not religious so i’m

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trying to break it down

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yeah so like basically okay rough

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religious

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like religion history lesson there’s

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like judaism

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and judaism is like jewish and then

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jesus who is i don’t know if anyone’s

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heard of jesus christ

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he’s like the head of christianity but

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jesus was originally a jew so he studied

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he practiced judaism and then when jesus

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um was he became known as the son of

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god in the eyes of christians and he

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died

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for our sins and everything and so jesus

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then like if you believe that jesus is

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like the coming of christ then that is

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christianity so you believe in jesus

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christ you believe in

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like god and everything does that make

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sense i feel like i need to bring a

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whiteboard out here and like sketch it

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out

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like draw lines so like the difference

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like the main difference between

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judaism and christianity is that

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christians believe that jesus is the son

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of god

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but judaism doesn’t necessarily

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believe that he’s the son of god yeah

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they don’t they believe he’s like a guy

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um but like not that he was like the

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coming of christ or anything

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okay um i hope that’s right i’m not fact

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check myself

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but um yeah so anyway so

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jesus forms this branch it’s

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christianity and like

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the biggest first branch of christianity

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is actually catholicism

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so that’s the roman catholic faith and

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that was the only form of christianity

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back then so you’re

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like it’s catholic you’re like okay

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catholic

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um if you believe in jesus christ and

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like god you’re

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you would be a catholic so um

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the boy he flees and he’s catholic and

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then he comes back to ireland

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to convert the irish to christianity

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because again the irish at this time

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um celtic heritage was paganism and

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paganism was a religion

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and um so he converts the irish to

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christianity specifically catholicism

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and that boy later becomes known as the

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patron saint of ireland

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aka st patrick so that’s how we have st

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patrick’s day

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oh okay yeah so that’s what that’s about

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and then the big quote with

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st patrick is that he’s credited with

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driving the snakes out of ireland

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and that’s a metaphor because ireland

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never had snakes

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the snakes are a metaphor for pagans

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long story short ireland

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has turned completely catholic by about

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480

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and ireland and england during this time

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are all catholic and that lasts for

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centuries

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and eventually we hit the 16th century

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and then something big happens with

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religion and do you remember what that

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was

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um i’m guessing that there’s like a like

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division oh then i have to do like pokes

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there’s two popes

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am i thinking well tell me what you’re

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thinking with the popes

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like a division in christianity so like

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there’s catholics and then like a new

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division yeah there’s a they weren’t

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hopes but it’s um you’re right that

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there is a division

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in christianity so there is a man called

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martin luther

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and he was a monk and he posted like a

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bunch of complaints about the catholic

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church

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on a door i believe the story goes and

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that was when then he he broke off from

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catholicism and formed his own branch of

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christianity called luther

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lutheranism lutheranism

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so that’s one that’s one break off of

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catholicism and then also

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king henry viii wanted a divorce from

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his wife and in catholicism you’re not

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allowed to get a divorce

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i mean nowadays you can if it’s a very

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serious

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issue like abuse or anything that’s you

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can get a divorce

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but i think he wanted it because his

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wife was not birthing boys

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um so he wanted a divorce and the pope

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would not allow it

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so he broke off from

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the he broke out he created his own

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religion so he could get a divorce and

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it was like another

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branch of christianity and so anglican i

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believe

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um is that religion now started by king

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henry viii

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so the main thing to get from that is

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that

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we now have these other branches of

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christianity

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so those anything that’s not catholic

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is known as protestant so that includes

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baptists

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that includes um what other is there

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yeah there’s did i write them down yeah

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like lutherism

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anglican baptist presbyterian all these

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christian

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terms that you may or may not have heard

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of

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all those branches are known as

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protestant branches and then catholicism

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is its own branch

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okay yeah catholicism was the main one

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and then everyone else broke off from

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catholicism so

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okay so just to clarify so christianity

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and then there’s like two

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it splits up into two groups catholic

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protestant

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and then there’s like all these other

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branches

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yeah which i don’t know i like to think

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of it as like

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christianity okay this is just me being

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picky and it’s probably because i’m

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catholic

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but like i think it’s like christianity

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and catholic there’s like one branches

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catholicism right so like

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like judaism christianity right yeah

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judaism then we get christianity and

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then for christianity we get catholicism

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and then from under catholicism it

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breaks out

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now your example’s probably better that

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like out of christianity breaks these

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other ones

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but they really broke off from

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catholicism yeah like

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chronologically it goes catholic to

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catholicism to

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all the other ones yeah but yeah they

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did they broke off

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so that’s huge so basically now

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um england which is

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they had the king of england everything

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uh england’s now

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protestant and maybe not everyone’s

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protestant yet but now there’s like a

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push

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for you to be protestant in england

0:10:45.440,0:10:49.680
because that’s like the king’s religion

0:10:47.600,0:10:52.560
and so now you’re under

0:10:49.680,0:10:54.399
the king and you follow the king’s form

0:10:52.560,0:10:57.760
of christianity

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okay so

0:10:57.760,0:11:03.040
then we will go into so that’s important

0:11:00.720,0:11:06.000
to know is that

0:11:03.040,0:11:07.120
ireland’s catholic and england was

0:11:06.000,0:11:09.200
catholic but now

0:11:07.120,0:11:11.360
england has broken off into these little

0:11:09.200,0:11:13.760
forms of christianity called

0:11:11.360,0:11:14.480
that or like protestantism we’ll call it

0:11:13.760,0:11:18.560
protestants

0:11:14.480,0:11:20.000
gotcha now to talk about like the actual

0:11:18.560,0:11:23.760
border in ireland

0:11:20.000,0:11:24.800
we have to start with the 17th century

0:11:23.760,0:11:26.399
so there’s something called the

0:11:24.800,0:11:29.839
plantations of ulster

0:11:26.399,0:11:31.279
in the 17th century so that’s when the

0:11:29.839,0:11:34.079
border starts to begin

0:11:31.279,0:11:35.680
since the 12th century british had been

0:11:34.079,0:11:37.360
present in ireland like they’re just

0:11:35.680,0:11:39.040
doing trade they’re hanging out in

0:11:37.360,0:11:42.160
ireland anyways

0:11:39.040,0:11:44.640
and the english we’re doing

0:11:42.160,0:11:46.079
like their regular oppressive practices

0:11:44.640,0:11:48.399
as they’re while they’re present like

0:11:46.079,0:11:50.160
they’re always doing this i feel like

0:11:48.399,0:11:51.760
england just has a checklist like go to

0:11:50.160,0:11:56.160
a new place um

0:11:51.760,0:11:59.279
forbid marriage between the locals

0:11:56.160,0:12:01.519
their language so they did all of that

0:11:59.279,0:12:03.519
when they came to ireland and they’re

0:12:01.519,0:12:05.120
just living on the coast too it’s like

0:12:03.519,0:12:07.760
one or two people trying to do this

0:12:05.120,0:12:10.959
whole thing to like an entire country

0:12:07.760,0:12:13.680
and yeah they banned

0:12:10.959,0:12:15.120
gaelic irish which is actually like

0:12:13.680,0:12:18.399
native

0:12:15.120,0:12:21.360
language of irish people is gaelic

0:12:18.399,0:12:23.040
ulster is a province in ireland and it’s

0:12:21.360,0:12:24.079
the most gaelic irish province in

0:12:23.040,0:12:27.040
ireland

0:12:24.079,0:12:28.720
and basically there was a war between

0:12:27.040,0:12:33.120
protestant english

0:12:28.720,0:12:35.440
and the catholic lords in that area

0:12:33.120,0:12:36.639
and the protestant english ended up

0:12:35.440,0:12:40.160
defeating the catholic

0:12:36.639,0:12:43.040
like the irish catholics and

0:12:40.160,0:12:44.320
so then the irish lord the irish the

0:12:43.040,0:12:46.800
irish catholic lords

0:12:44.320,0:12:47.760
in that area fled and they left behind

0:12:46.800,0:12:49.760
the land

0:12:47.760,0:12:52.000
so the protestant settlers just took

0:12:49.760,0:12:53.519
over that land and those protestant

0:12:52.000,0:12:56.720
settlers were from scotland

0:12:53.519,0:13:00.480
and england and

0:12:56.720,0:13:02.639
they just settled in ulster so after

0:13:00.480,0:13:04.000
that war was fought okay does that make

0:13:02.639,0:13:08.320
sense you look confused

0:13:04.000,0:13:08.320
no but so wait this is ulcer

0:13:08.639,0:13:11.839
ulcers in the south or you said it was

0:13:10.800,0:13:14.880
east where

0:13:11.839,0:13:15.600
no dublin so okay the the english come

0:13:14.880,0:13:17.279
and they’re like

0:13:15.600,0:13:19.360
they settle in this area known as the

0:13:17.279,0:13:21.120
pale and like they didn’t experiment on

0:13:19.360,0:13:22.399
that but the pale is like on the east

0:13:21.120,0:13:23.120
coast so that’s just like they’ve

0:13:22.399,0:13:25.680
arrived

0:13:23.120,0:13:27.200
from like trades okay and then ulster is

0:13:25.680,0:13:31.040
oh i don’t even have my world map

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but also ulster is like um

0:13:31.040,0:13:34.399
like a province in the north like

0:13:32.839,0:13:38.160
northeast okay

0:13:34.399,0:13:41.440
yeah and then right

0:13:38.160,0:13:43.279
in the north it’s not protestant yet

0:13:41.440,0:13:46.320
there’s like english settlers

0:13:43.279,0:13:48.079
and then ulster was still catholic

0:13:46.320,0:13:50.000
irish catholic but you have all these

0:13:48.079,0:13:50.720
english protestants that are settling

0:13:50.000,0:13:54.240
there

0:13:50.720,0:13:56.639
and then they had this war between them

0:13:54.240,0:13:57.760
yeah because you know the english are

0:13:56.639,0:13:59.920
like kind of

0:13:57.760,0:14:01.279
pushing them around and like taking land

0:13:59.920,0:14:02.720
and banning

0:14:01.279,0:14:05.600
or trying to ban these things and

0:14:02.720,0:14:07.600
enforce these laws and so

0:14:05.600,0:14:08.800
they have a they have a war and then the

0:14:07.600,0:14:11.440
irish catholics

0:14:08.800,0:14:12.240
lose the war and then they flee the area

0:14:11.440,0:14:14.959
and

0:14:12.240,0:14:16.160
the english protestants just take over

0:14:14.959,0:14:18.720
the area and like

0:14:16.160,0:14:19.760
claim it as theirs right they’re fleeing

0:14:18.720,0:14:23.279
the north area

0:14:19.760,0:14:26.079
so they’re going to okay that’s not

0:14:23.279,0:14:28.000
clear so they they did flee but i think

0:14:26.079,0:14:31.519
some things said that they split

0:14:28.000,0:14:34.560
they fleed they flew fled i think

0:14:31.519,0:14:36.240
they fled yes they fled to england or

0:14:34.560,0:14:38.480
they fled to the south either way

0:14:36.240,0:14:39.760
long story short they like left the area

0:14:38.480,0:14:42.720
like they’re gone

0:14:39.760,0:14:44.240
yeah so then that’s when they took over

0:14:42.720,0:14:47.279
the protestant english takeover

0:14:44.240,0:14:49.519
and then okay

0:14:47.279,0:14:52.720
so now there’s a lot of protestants in

0:14:49.519,0:14:55.839
that area of ulster

0:14:52.720,0:14:57.120
so although and it’s a province right so

0:14:55.839,0:14:59.279
the province is quite big

0:14:57.120,0:15:01.199
but although there are still some native

0:14:59.279,0:15:04.639
irish catholics in the area

0:15:01.199,0:15:06.720
now the province is now dominated by

0:15:04.639,0:15:08.800
protestants and the protestants are all

0:15:06.720,0:15:14.079
loyal to the british crown

0:15:08.800,0:15:15.920
okay so then we go to 1641

0:15:14.079,0:15:17.199
and we have something called the irish

0:15:15.920,0:15:19.600
confederate wars

0:15:17.199,0:15:20.639
so it’s a war between ireland scotland

0:15:19.600,0:15:22.800
and england

0:15:20.639,0:15:24.079
and i don’t know if this is clear i kind

0:15:22.800,0:15:26.079
of mentioned it but

0:15:24.079,0:15:28.639
uh the protestant settlers were actually

0:15:26.079,0:15:30.720
scottish and english

0:15:28.639,0:15:31.839
okay so keep that in mind too it’s

0:15:30.720,0:15:33.920
really irish is

0:15:31.839,0:15:35.600
the irish are still catholic but and i

0:15:33.920,0:15:38.160
don’t know the history of scotland but

0:15:35.600,0:15:40.240
it’s just from history it was scotland

0:15:38.160,0:15:41.120
and england together that were the

0:15:40.240,0:15:44.639
protestant

0:15:41.120,0:15:47.920
invaders um yeah

0:15:44.639,0:15:50.639
yeah so basically

0:15:47.920,0:15:52.399
1641 irish confederate wars between

0:15:50.639,0:15:54.320
ireland scotland and england

0:15:52.399,0:15:56.480
and it’s really scotland and england

0:15:54.320,0:15:58.399
together against ireland so ireland

0:15:56.480,0:16:01.440
tries to push back against the

0:15:58.399,0:16:05.120
anti-catholic protestant countries

0:16:01.440,0:16:07.839
scotland and um yeah england

0:16:05.120,0:16:08.560
the english end up winning that as well

0:16:07.839,0:16:11.519
again

0:16:08.560,0:16:14.480
and now the catholic majority ireland is

0:16:11.519,0:16:18.320
run by a protestant minority

0:16:14.480,0:16:21.440
okay sounds a lot like the states

0:16:18.320,0:16:24.639
yeah yeah so

0:16:21.440,0:16:26.800
so then we’ll go to 1798 there’s

0:16:24.639,0:16:30.079
something known as the irish rebellion

0:16:26.800,0:16:31.600
so this was inspired by the french and

0:16:30.079,0:16:33.759
american revolutions

0:16:31.600,0:16:36.959
and it was an uprising of the irish

0:16:33.759,0:16:38.560
against british rule in ireland

0:16:36.959,0:16:40.399
but then the french tried to help the

0:16:38.560,0:16:43.600
irish in the uprising

0:16:40.399,0:16:45.360
and again the uprising was suppressed by

0:16:43.600,0:16:48.240
the british crown so the irish

0:16:45.360,0:16:48.880
lost it was really really violent too so

0:16:48.240,0:16:52.000
they lost

0:16:48.880,0:16:55.440
10 000 to 30 000 lives

0:16:52.000,0:16:57.440
wow that’s a that’s a lot

0:16:55.440,0:16:59.120
and i’m sure like the population is like

0:16:57.440,0:17:02.399
really tiny at the time

0:16:59.120,0:17:05.600
yeah oh then that happens in 1781

0:17:02.399,0:17:08.079
again it’s still protestant english

0:17:05.600,0:17:09.520
rural ireland and then we have the

0:17:08.079,0:17:13.520
active union in

0:17:09.520,0:17:14.720
1800s so in the in the year 1800 the

0:17:13.520,0:17:17.199
united kingdom

0:17:14.720,0:17:19.439
which at the time just consisted of

0:17:17.199,0:17:21.360
england and scotland

0:17:19.439,0:17:24.720
because i don’t know are you familiar

0:17:21.360,0:17:28.559
with like the history of the uk

0:17:24.720,0:17:32.240
um no i’d say like isn’t just the uk

0:17:28.559,0:17:36.640
scotland part of ireland and then

0:17:32.240,0:17:39.120
wales is whales in the uk yeah it’s like

0:17:36.640,0:17:40.240
is england not in no england just okay

0:17:39.120,0:17:42.400
england yeah it’s like

0:17:40.240,0:17:43.600
england scotland part of ireland and

0:17:42.400,0:17:46.080
then

0:17:43.600,0:17:47.919
wales yeah i didn’t know what it was

0:17:46.080,0:17:49.520
either but like the

0:17:47.919,0:17:51.280
when i was doing research they showed

0:17:49.520,0:17:54.640
the animation of

0:17:51.280,0:17:56.480
each part joining the uk so it was

0:17:54.640,0:17:59.280
england and then the first country to

0:17:56.480,0:18:02.320
join england and form the uk was

0:17:59.280,0:18:06.720
scotland so

0:18:02.320,0:18:09.360
uh sure um so 1800’s

0:18:06.720,0:18:11.120
uk has been formed and now they’re

0:18:09.360,0:18:11.440
concerned that ireland is going to break

0:18:11.120,0:18:13.440
off

0:18:11.440,0:18:14.480
and join with france in fighting against

0:18:13.440,0:18:16.960
the british again

0:18:14.480,0:18:19.520
because this is only two years after the

0:18:16.960,0:18:23.200
irish rebellion

0:18:19.520,0:18:26.960
so because of this fear the uk absorbs

0:18:23.200,0:18:30.640
ireland into them as well in the active

0:18:26.960,0:18:32.799
union 1800 or 1801 it’s called vote

0:18:30.640,0:18:34.559
um so there’s a lot of opposition to

0:18:32.799,0:18:37.039
this obviously

0:18:34.559,0:18:39.919
and throughout the 1800s there was

0:18:37.039,0:18:42.480
horizon violent rebellions to oppose it

0:18:39.919,0:18:45.120
and demand self-governing

0:18:42.480,0:18:46.400
wow okay so this is like sorry i’m like

0:18:45.120,0:18:47.200
just trying to like think about it this

0:18:46.400,0:18:50.000
is like a big

0:18:47.200,0:18:50.480
a really big deal because at this time

0:18:50.000,0:18:53.280
like

0:18:50.480,0:18:54.799
britain has colonies all over the world

0:18:53.280,0:18:56.000
but then that’s just considered like the

0:18:54.799,0:18:58.400
british empire

0:18:56.000,0:18:59.039
but the fact that ireland was acquired

0:18:58.400,0:19:01.360
into the

0:18:59.039,0:19:02.559
united kingdom that’s saying like you’re

0:19:01.360,0:19:05.760
not just a colony

0:19:02.559,0:19:08.799
you’re like one of us

0:19:05.760,0:19:10.160
you’re the united kingdom so right like

0:19:08.799,0:19:12.960
that’s a lot more significant

0:19:10.160,0:19:14.080
than just having them as a part of the

0:19:12.960,0:19:17.600
empire

0:19:14.080,0:19:19.200
right yeah well how do the empires work

0:19:17.600,0:19:20.720
though because

0:19:19.200,0:19:22.400
like even though they’re they didn’t

0:19:20.720,0:19:25.600
absorb them into the uk

0:19:22.400,0:19:28.080
it’s still like territory and

0:19:25.600,0:19:29.120
rule i think that’s just known as like

0:19:28.080,0:19:30.799
great britain then

0:19:29.120,0:19:32.559
right like because there’s like there’s

0:19:30.799,0:19:33.039
so many terms oh my god it’s like united

0:19:32.559,0:19:34.720
kingdom

0:19:33.039,0:19:36.400
great britain and then england england

0:19:34.720,0:19:37.440
is just like the country i think great

0:19:36.400,0:19:38.880
britain is like

0:19:37.440,0:19:40.640
the whole british empire all the

0:19:38.880,0:19:41.679
colonies they have and then the united

0:19:40.640,0:19:45.600
kingdom

0:19:41.679,0:19:48.559
is just like those few oh

0:19:45.600,0:19:50.880
that they’re like okay but this is like

0:19:48.559,0:19:53.919
that makes so much more sense

0:19:50.880,0:19:55.760
okay i was using england uk

0:19:53.919,0:19:57.440
and great britain all interchangeably

0:19:55.760,0:19:58.080
but that makes so much sense because

0:19:57.440,0:20:01.200
great britain

0:19:58.080,0:20:02.720
is like the great like everything and

0:20:01.200,0:20:05.280
then kingdom is like

0:20:02.720,0:20:06.480
texas but i’m pretty sure okay yeah i’ll

0:20:05.280,0:20:08.559
look into that too i

0:20:06.480,0:20:10.640
never knew i i just called them all the

0:20:08.559,0:20:13.919
same thing

0:20:10.640,0:20:15.919
okay well yeah it’s a pretty big deal so

0:20:13.919,0:20:18.960
ireland is now part of the uk

0:20:15.919,0:20:20.000
okay and uh yeah they’re not having a

0:20:18.960,0:20:22.640
good time they don’t like

0:20:20.000,0:20:23.679
it and well i shouldn’t say that

0:20:22.640,0:20:27.679
northern ireland’s

0:20:23.679,0:20:29.679
having a ball ulster protestant english

0:20:27.679,0:20:31.600
and then the rest of ireland not really

0:20:29.679,0:20:38.080
liking it so

0:20:31.600,0:20:41.039
then in 1920 the official border happens

0:20:38.080,0:20:42.080
under the government of ireland act the

0:20:41.039,0:20:44.000
british government

0:20:42.080,0:20:45.840
made an attempt to reconcile the two

0:20:44.000,0:20:48.480
demands of both areas of ireland

0:20:45.840,0:20:49.120
because north part of ireland which is

0:20:48.480,0:20:50.720
also

0:20:49.120,0:20:52.720
well not just ulster but the north part

0:20:50.720,0:20:54.159
of ireland is like protestant and the

0:20:52.720,0:20:56.000
south part is catholic

0:20:54.159,0:20:57.919
and there’s all these fights and

0:20:56.000,0:21:01.280
uprisings and rebellions and

0:20:57.919,0:21:02.640
civil wars trying to like push for

0:21:01.280,0:21:06.159
independent rule so

0:21:02.640,0:21:09.039
to reconcile the demands they

0:21:06.159,0:21:10.320
create a partition between the parts of

0:21:09.039,0:21:13.039
ireland

0:21:10.320,0:21:14.720
so the irish nationalist which is known

0:21:13.039,0:21:17.520
as southern ireland demands

0:21:14.720,0:21:18.960
for the separation of ireland from

0:21:17.520,0:21:19.360
britain so they don’t want to be a part

0:21:18.960,0:21:21.280
of

0:21:19.360,0:21:22.480
the uk they don’t want to be associated

0:21:21.280,0:21:24.159
with britain

0:21:22.480,0:21:26.240
like they just want to be ireland and

0:21:24.159,0:21:27.440
then the unionist which is the northern

0:21:26.240,0:21:29.360
part of ireland

0:21:27.440,0:21:30.480
demands to remain part of the united

0:21:29.360,0:21:32.880
kingdom so they

0:21:30.480,0:21:33.760
they want to be a part of the uk they

0:21:32.880,0:21:37.039
like it

0:21:33.760,0:21:38.960
and they’re in conflict

0:21:37.039,0:21:41.039
okay oh wait okay i have two questions

0:21:38.960,0:21:42.320
really quick okay first

0:21:41.039,0:21:44.240
this is like a stupid question this

0:21:42.320,0:21:45.679
partition is it just like

0:21:44.240,0:21:47.919
invisible is there like a physical

0:21:45.679,0:21:50.000
structure that’s actually like is there

0:21:47.919,0:21:52.080
a wall or like a fence or something or

0:21:50.000,0:21:56.000
is it just like

0:21:52.080,0:21:57.520
no so uh

0:21:56.000,0:22:00.000
you’re asking a good question there’s

0:21:57.520,0:22:03.039
not i’m sure there’s like a gate

0:22:00.000,0:22:04.960
maybe but it’s not like a physical wall

0:22:03.039,0:22:05.360
yet but in northern ireland which i’ll

0:22:04.960,0:22:08.080
get to

0:22:05.360,0:22:08.720
later is like there’s actually walls

0:22:08.080,0:22:11.919
between

0:22:08.720,0:22:13.360
protestant and catholics like they build

0:22:11.919,0:22:14.799
they’re called peace walls but they

0:22:13.360,0:22:16.240
literally build them separating the

0:22:14.799,0:22:17.039
neighborhoods because there’s so much

0:22:16.240,0:22:20.480
violence

0:22:17.039,0:22:21.360
like it’s really bad um and then but

0:22:20.480,0:22:23.520
between like

0:22:21.360,0:22:25.520
the partition that we’re talking about

0:22:23.520,0:22:26.880
where there’s an official border now

0:22:25.520,0:22:28.799
i don’t know if they built an actual

0:22:26.880,0:22:31.360
wall for that yeah

0:22:28.799,0:22:32.799
okay yeah okay probably yeah i’m

0:22:31.360,0:22:34.320
guessing there’s not like a

0:22:32.799,0:22:36.880
yeah along the entire border but

0:22:34.320,0:22:39.919
probably around parts but maybe because

0:22:36.880,0:22:41.600
it’s not a huge island so that’s true

0:22:39.919,0:22:42.000
and if they hate each other that much

0:22:41.600,0:22:44.240
like

0:22:42.000,0:22:46.240
yeah if it gets that violent then yeah

0:22:44.240,0:22:48.000
and then okay like this my second it’s

0:22:46.240,0:22:49.280
mostly like just a remark but like i

0:22:48.000,0:22:51.840
guess

0:22:49.280,0:22:53.200
so like in 1920 this is like after world

0:22:51.840,0:22:56.960
war one

0:22:53.200,0:22:57.760
so like the whole everyone in ireland

0:22:56.960,0:23:00.000
probably had to

0:22:57.760,0:23:01.120
fight world war one under the british

0:23:00.000,0:23:04.480
flag so i’m sure

0:23:01.120,0:23:06.799
that’s like kind of what caused

0:23:04.480,0:23:09.600
uh like the this is what really like

0:23:06.799,0:23:11.039
flared the argument into

0:23:09.600,0:23:12.559
like people actually like declaring

0:23:11.039,0:23:13.440
themselves as like unit versus

0:23:12.559,0:23:15.840
nationalists

0:23:13.440,0:23:16.559
right am i that’s just like no you are

0:23:15.840,0:23:18.640
literally

0:23:16.559,0:23:20.240
spot on like you really know your

0:23:18.640,0:23:23.679
history because

0:23:20.240,0:23:25.120
that’s exactly like what happened okay

0:23:23.679,0:23:28.240
i’m just gonna go right into it

0:23:25.120,0:23:29.840
so in 1922 we

0:23:28.240,0:23:31.600
there was the irish free state

0:23:29.840,0:23:34.240
constitution act

0:23:31.600,0:23:35.120
and that established that island was a

0:23:34.240,0:23:36.799
free state

0:23:35.120,0:23:38.640
but a dominion of the british

0:23:36.799,0:23:41.919
commonwealth so that

0:23:38.640,0:23:43.039
is like canada australia new zealand

0:23:41.919,0:23:45.360
south africa

0:23:43.039,0:23:48.320
they’re their own country but they also

0:23:45.360,0:23:51.039
the queen is technically their queen too

0:23:48.320,0:23:52.320
yeah okay i don’t know how it works

0:23:51.039,0:23:55.520
because we’re american

0:23:52.320,0:23:57.919
of like u.s territories

0:23:55.520,0:24:00.000
like we talked about in our minisones

0:23:57.919,0:24:02.240
where they have their

0:24:00.000,0:24:03.039
own local governments but then they’re

0:24:02.240,0:24:04.799
under the

0:24:03.039,0:24:08.480
ultimate jurisdiction of the president

0:24:04.799,0:24:12.080
of the united states kind of similar

0:24:08.480,0:24:15.200
but yeah okay and so yeah

0:24:12.080,0:24:16.480
ireland ireland becomes one of those in

0:24:15.200,0:24:18.480
this treaty

0:24:16.480,0:24:20.000
or is it a treaty in the irish free

0:24:18.480,0:24:23.200
state constitution act

0:24:20.000,0:24:26.000
they gave the north part of ireland a

0:24:23.200,0:24:28.480
clause that allowed them to opt out of

0:24:26.000,0:24:30.240
the agreement and stay part of the uk

0:24:28.480,0:24:32.799
and they took that immediately like they

0:24:30.240,0:24:35.919
were yes opt me out i don’t want to be

0:24:32.799,0:24:37.919
like i want to be part of the uk so

0:24:35.919,0:24:39.760
now there are two british parliaments

0:24:37.919,0:24:41.440
because of this there’s one in dublin

0:24:39.760,0:24:44.559
for the south and then there’s one

0:24:41.440,0:24:47.279
in belfast for the north

0:24:44.559,0:24:49.600
and some of the people in the south are

0:24:47.279,0:24:52.080
okay with the treaty because

0:24:49.600,0:24:54.159
it’s they’re an irish free state so

0:24:52.080,0:24:56.080
they’re like wow like we’re

0:24:54.159,0:24:57.440
we’re free we’re irish we’re like

0:24:56.080,0:24:59.120
independent and

0:24:57.440,0:25:01.360
other people are against the treaty

0:24:59.120,0:25:03.679
because they’re like no we’re still

0:25:01.360,0:25:04.400
under the british crown we’re like a

0:25:03.679,0:25:06.640
formerly

0:25:04.400,0:25:07.919
a territory you know like we don’t like

0:25:06.640,0:25:09.840
it it’s not good enough we want to be

0:25:07.919,0:25:14.720
fully independent

0:25:09.840,0:25:15.200
so that leads to a civil war oh also too

0:25:14.720,0:25:17.679
so

0:25:15.200,0:25:19.679
and also people who are anti-treaty felt

0:25:17.679,0:25:22.080
that no we’re also entitled to

0:25:19.679,0:25:23.840
the whole country of ireland not just a

0:25:22.080,0:25:24.799
part of it like northern ireland is ours

0:25:23.840,0:25:26.640
as well

0:25:24.799,0:25:28.320
oh so that’s okay so as the nationalists

0:25:26.640,0:25:31.919
they’re not just like oh

0:25:28.320,0:25:33.760
like southern ireland will secede

0:25:31.919,0:25:35.440
from like the uk like will be our own

0:25:33.760,0:25:38.559
thing they want everyone

0:25:35.440,0:25:40.720
in the whole island to yeah so i mean

0:25:38.559,0:25:42.080
because it but right the south has like

0:25:40.720,0:25:43.440
split ideas too right

0:25:42.080,0:25:45.360
some of the south people are like it’s

0:25:43.440,0:25:47.279
cool it’s fine

0:25:45.360,0:25:49.440
like everything’s fine and then like

0:25:47.279,0:25:52.159
we’re free and the other part is like

0:25:49.440,0:25:53.840
no we get all of it i’m sure within that

0:25:52.159,0:25:55.360
there’s arguments too like no maybe we

0:25:53.840,0:25:56.559
don’t get all of it but like no we don’t

0:25:55.360,0:25:58.480
want to be a part of

0:25:56.559,0:25:59.760
like a free state anyways it should just

0:25:58.480,0:26:01.840
be independent

0:25:59.760,0:26:03.679
um so obviously there’s differing

0:26:01.840,0:26:07.440
opinions on

0:26:03.679,0:26:09.679
the treaty gotcha but that

0:26:07.440,0:26:12.159
disagreement led to a civil war in the

0:26:09.679,0:26:14.960
south which was pro and anti-treaty

0:26:12.159,0:26:16.400
the pro-treaty side wins and solidifies

0:26:14.960,0:26:19.360
the irish free state as

0:26:16.400,0:26:19.360
british dominion

0:26:19.440,0:26:26.880
so then in 1937

0:26:23.840,0:26:29.440
there they held a vote in

0:26:26.880,0:26:31.440
i think south ireland so in 1937 a vote

0:26:29.440,0:26:34.159
was held for a new constitution

0:26:31.440,0:26:35.840
to remove all british ties from ireland

0:26:34.159,0:26:37.760
and 56 percent

0:26:35.840,0:26:39.679
of people who voted in that were in

0:26:37.760,0:26:42.159
favor of the new constitution

0:26:39.679,0:26:44.559
and renaming the country to ireland or

0:26:42.159,0:26:47.200
the republic of ireland to differentiate

0:26:44.559,0:26:50.400
itself from the island ireland

0:26:47.200,0:26:52.960
and so

0:26:50.400,0:26:53.600
south of ireland is all cool they’re

0:26:52.960,0:26:56.400
like yeah

0:26:53.600,0:26:58.000
let’s remove like all british ties and

0:26:56.400,0:27:00.799
because they removed

0:26:58.000,0:27:02.400
their british ties from it or because

0:27:00.799,0:27:04.000
like you mentioned the war right and

0:27:02.400,0:27:07.120
like how they had to fight under the

0:27:04.000,0:27:09.600
crown so after this constitution passed

0:27:07.120,0:27:11.840
ireland’s now its own country and they

0:27:09.600,0:27:13.600
used that to exercise their right to

0:27:11.840,0:27:17.440
remain neutral in world war

0:27:13.600,0:27:20.399
ii oh okay yeah

0:27:17.440,0:27:22.000
so anyways south island is peachy keen

0:27:20.399,0:27:24.480
it’s just ireland now

0:27:22.000,0:27:26.000
and now we go to northern ireland

0:27:24.480,0:27:27.679
because remember there are still irish

0:27:26.000,0:27:30.480
catholics in northern ireland

0:27:27.679,0:27:31.520
so then we enter a time period known as

0:27:30.480,0:27:35.279
the troubles

0:27:31.520,0:27:37.679
so this started in 1969 and it was

0:27:35.279,0:27:38.320
like a lot of violence in northern

0:27:37.679,0:27:41.360
ireland

0:27:38.320,0:27:42.640
ireland in 1969 violence broke out in

0:27:41.360,0:27:44.720
northern ireland

0:27:42.640,0:27:46.720
because although a majority of northern

0:27:44.720,0:27:48.559
ireland is protestant there is still a

0:27:46.720,0:27:50.080
minority of irish catholics and

0:27:48.559,0:27:52.399
nationalists

0:27:50.080,0:27:53.919
so the catholic minority surprise

0:27:52.399,0:27:56.240
surprise

0:27:53.919,0:27:58.320
not really it’s not a surprise um they

0:27:56.240,0:27:58.880
were subjected to discrimination when it

0:27:58.320,0:28:01.679
came to

0:27:58.880,0:28:03.840
employment housing and education like

0:28:01.679,0:28:08.399
routine british oppression

0:28:03.840,0:28:11.600
we we know the story as americans and

0:28:08.399,0:28:13.679
the result um of that was

0:28:11.600,0:28:15.279
violent conflict for three decades

0:28:13.679,0:28:16.720
between the irish

0:28:15.279,0:28:19.520
and the british catholics and

0:28:16.720,0:28:22.559
protestants wow three decades

0:28:19.520,0:28:24.960
oh yeah it was very bad and uh

0:28:22.559,0:28:26.640
like we just said a little earlier the

0:28:24.960,0:28:29.039
like physical it was so bad that

0:28:26.640,0:28:30.240
physical walls got put up between

0:28:29.039,0:28:31.919
neighborhoods

0:28:30.240,0:28:34.399
because separating catholics and

0:28:31.919,0:28:37.760
protestants because the violence was

0:28:34.399,0:28:41.039
very bad it was actually quote unquote

0:28:37.760,0:28:42.480
um spoken about as mild warfare like

0:28:41.039,0:28:44.960
that’s how bad it was maybe not like a

0:28:42.480,0:28:46.960
full-on war but like bullets are going

0:28:44.960,0:28:50.240
off and everything

0:28:46.960,0:28:53.279
wow that’s crazy

0:28:50.240,0:28:54.960
it’s bad actually yeah okay this is just

0:28:53.279,0:28:56.320
i guess i know but i was gonna take a

0:28:54.960,0:28:58.720
class on terrorism

0:28:56.320,0:29:00.080
at osu and i was like so i was like

0:28:58.720,0:29:02.159
reading the description and it was like

0:29:00.080,0:29:03.440
focusing on ireland and i remember

0:29:02.159,0:29:06.799
reading it being like

0:29:03.440,0:29:08.640
terrorism in ireland and then i get it

0:29:06.799,0:29:10.720
but it’s like just not something you

0:29:08.640,0:29:12.880
would think of i guess

0:29:10.720,0:29:14.640
yeah no i was surprised because i was

0:29:12.880,0:29:15.120
like i wonder why ireland’s separate and

0:29:14.640,0:29:17.360
it’s a

0:29:15.120,0:29:18.559
big deal this has been this has lasted

0:29:17.360,0:29:20.799
since

0:29:18.559,0:29:21.840
like the english have come to ireland

0:29:20.799,0:29:25.679
they’ve been having

0:29:21.840,0:29:29.600
this issue right it’s still ongoing

0:29:25.679,0:29:32.960
so that you know the violence

0:29:29.600,0:29:37.200
lasts until 1995 so it’s literally

0:29:32.960,0:29:40.399
like 25 years long and 3 500

0:29:37.200,0:29:44.240
people lose their lives wow

0:29:40.399,0:29:46.080
so to end the troubles there

0:29:44.240,0:29:48.080
or the troubles was resolved through the

0:29:46.080,0:29:51.520
signing of the good friday agreement

0:29:48.080,0:29:55.039
also known as the belfast agreement

0:29:51.520,0:29:56.960
and ireland okay so what what it said in

0:29:55.039,0:29:59.120
this like agreement was that ireland has

0:29:56.960,0:29:59.760
to remove their claim over northern

0:29:59.120,0:30:02.159
ireland

0:29:59.760,0:30:03.520
because their constitution was like yeah

0:30:02.159,0:30:06.080
we’re independent and

0:30:03.520,0:30:07.840
we get all of ireland and so that’s why

0:30:06.080,0:30:08.880
there’s a lot of conflict too because

0:30:07.840,0:30:11.679
the nationalists are like

0:30:08.880,0:30:12.399
no like we’re this is all ireland and

0:30:11.679,0:30:14.559
then

0:30:12.399,0:30:15.840
the protestants are like no like we’re

0:30:14.559,0:30:18.480
the uk

0:30:15.840,0:30:20.240
you know and so ireland has to remove

0:30:18.480,0:30:22.240
their claim over northern ireland

0:30:20.240,0:30:23.360
in the constitution and the british and

0:30:22.240,0:30:26.720
irish governments

0:30:23.360,0:30:29.520
agreed that if the time comes that

0:30:26.720,0:30:31.200
the majority of northern ireland ever

0:30:29.520,0:30:33.279
wants to break off

0:30:31.200,0:30:34.399
and become independent or rejoin

0:30:33.279,0:30:36.720
southern ireland

0:30:34.399,0:30:38.159
then it will be allowed to do so like

0:30:36.720,0:30:42.080
peacefully

0:30:38.159,0:30:42.799
okay yeah cool yeah i know it’s a good

0:30:42.080,0:30:44.559
resolution

0:30:42.799,0:30:46.240
granted i don’t know if that’s ever

0:30:44.559,0:30:47.520
gonna happen since the majority is

0:30:46.240,0:30:50.559
protestant

0:30:47.520,0:30:52.159
um so basically northern ireland is not

0:30:50.559,0:30:53.600
going to become a part of ireland until

0:30:52.159,0:30:56.159
a majority decide to

0:30:53.600,0:30:57.919
and it has kept the peace so far between

0:30:56.159,0:31:00.000
the regions there hasn’t been

0:30:57.919,0:31:02.080
there’s still mild violence and conflict

0:31:00.000,0:31:05.279
between the two but it’s not as bad as

0:31:02.080,0:31:06.799
it was during the troubles era okay oh

0:31:05.279,0:31:08.240
so okay i don’t know if you’re like

0:31:06.799,0:31:11.039
about to talk about this but are you

0:31:08.240,0:31:12.720
gonna talk about brexit at any point

0:31:11.039,0:31:14.480
that’s a good question i was i had a

0:31:12.720,0:31:15.120
feeling you’re gonna ask about brexit do

0:31:14.480,0:31:17.200
you

0:31:15.120,0:31:19.360
like do you have questions on it yeah

0:31:17.200,0:31:22.000
because i’m just confused because i know

0:31:19.360,0:31:26.000
there was a lot of confusion when

0:31:22.000,0:31:28.720
england originally voted to um

0:31:26.000,0:31:30.559
to remove themselves from the european

0:31:28.720,0:31:34.320
union right because then it was like

0:31:30.559,0:31:35.840
oh northern ire would northern ireland

0:31:34.320,0:31:37.440
go with them and then like would

0:31:35.840,0:31:38.960
scotland go with them

0:31:37.440,0:31:41.120
and then i think in like the rest of the

0:31:38.960,0:31:42.559
uk like is it just england or is it all

0:31:41.120,0:31:46.240
of the uk

0:31:42.559,0:31:48.399
um and then i think oh

0:31:46.240,0:31:49.760
i would try to check this but i think

0:31:48.399,0:31:52.080
also like scotland

0:31:49.760,0:31:54.399
they had a vote to see if they wanted to

0:31:52.080,0:31:57.360
uh remove themselves from the uk

0:31:54.399,0:31:58.240
but then it was like it was like 55 or

0:31:57.360,0:32:00.159
like 45

0:31:58.240,0:32:02.240
but basically they voted to stay in the

0:32:00.159,0:32:03.760
uk so i think

0:32:02.240,0:32:06.159
they’re no longer part of the european

0:32:03.760,0:32:07.519
union but honestly i don’t know brexit

0:32:06.159,0:32:09.120
is very confusing

0:32:07.519,0:32:11.039
and europe is really not like my

0:32:09.120,0:32:13.039
fortitude yeah

0:32:11.039,0:32:14.640
no i didn’t i tried to look a little

0:32:13.039,0:32:16.240
into brexit with it because i didn’t

0:32:14.640,0:32:18.080
understand what that was about

0:32:16.240,0:32:19.360
but it really what i got from the

0:32:18.080,0:32:22.080
research was

0:32:19.360,0:32:24.240
yeah like england wanted to remove

0:32:22.080,0:32:25.760
themselves from the european or uk

0:32:24.240,0:32:28.320
the uk wanted to remove themselves from

0:32:25.760,0:32:30.960
the european union and

0:32:28.320,0:32:31.919
the main concerns with that with ireland

0:32:30.960,0:32:33.760
is because

0:32:31.919,0:32:35.919
like right now it’s a soft border

0:32:33.760,0:32:37.039
between northern ireland and southern

0:32:35.919,0:32:39.360
ireland but

0:32:37.039,0:32:41.440
if you were to leave that’s a hard

0:32:39.360,0:32:44.000
border now because it it’s not just

0:32:41.440,0:32:46.480
a border between ireland and the uk it’s

0:32:44.000,0:32:48.080
a border between like the eu

0:32:46.480,0:32:50.720
and then this country that’s not a part

0:32:48.080,0:32:53.200
of it you would need a visa right

0:32:50.720,0:32:54.320
to like go because like you’re not like

0:32:53.200,0:32:56.480
if you have a

0:32:54.320,0:32:58.799
eu visa then you could just travel

0:32:56.480,0:33:01.440
freely freely to any eu country

0:32:58.799,0:33:03.519
but if there’s a hard border there half

0:33:01.440,0:33:05.039
of it is in the eu half of it isn’t like

0:33:03.519,0:33:06.240
yeah then you would i mean

0:33:05.039,0:33:07.279
i don’t know if that actually happened

0:33:06.240,0:33:09.519
but like yeah you’re right like

0:33:07.279,0:33:12.080
immigration would be like restricted

0:33:09.519,0:33:13.919
or like it’d be filtered you know also

0:33:12.080,0:33:16.480
don’t they have different currencies

0:33:13.919,0:33:17.200
like yeah the eu has the same currencies

0:33:16.480,0:33:19.679
and then

0:33:17.200,0:33:20.720
but then again do they we have to ask a

0:33:19.679,0:33:23.440
european friend

0:33:20.720,0:33:24.080
because i’m pretty sure isn’t sweden in

0:33:23.440,0:33:28.240
the eu

0:33:24.080,0:33:30.320
they are aren’t they um

0:33:28.240,0:33:32.080
i i don’t think so actually oh okay

0:33:30.320,0:33:33.200
never mind that because sweden uses they

0:33:32.080,0:33:36.159
don’t use like

0:33:33.200,0:33:37.200
the same do they use the pound in the eu

0:33:36.159,0:33:39.600
i’m gonna

0:33:37.200,0:33:41.039
i’m gonna look up i’m gonna pick up

0:33:39.600,0:33:43.600
ireland currency

0:33:41.039,0:33:46.000
and then i’m gonna look up who’s in the

0:33:43.600,0:33:49.039
eat you

0:33:46.000,0:33:50.720
like is sweden let me see okay sorry i

0:33:49.039,0:33:55.039
think you cut out for a second

0:33:50.720,0:33:55.039
sorry european union country

0:33:55.440,0:33:58.350
yeah swedenborg but sweden doesn’t use

0:33:57.760,0:33:59.679
the same

0:33:58.350,0:34:06.320
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0:33:59.679,0:34:08.480
currency what is uh

0:34:06.320,0:34:09.760
um okay so the republic of ireland is

0:34:08.480,0:34:11.760
the euro

0:34:09.760,0:34:13.599
and then northern ireland they use the

0:34:11.760,0:34:16.879
british pound

0:34:13.599,0:34:19.520
did the uk already split

0:34:16.879,0:34:20.000
yeah didn’t brexit like already happen

0:34:19.520,0:34:23.200
yeah

0:34:20.000,0:34:26.480
so i can’t believe that you

0:34:23.200,0:34:28.800
i think so oh no it says

0:34:26.480,0:34:30.079
the you oh the uk has left the eu and

0:34:28.800,0:34:32.879
the transition period

0:34:30.079,0:34:36.320
after brexit comes to an end this year

0:34:32.879,0:34:39.440
in january 2020.

0:34:36.320,0:34:42.000
so why are they wow so i wonder what’s

0:34:39.440,0:34:44.399
going on with ireland

0:34:42.000,0:34:45.520
to our irish viewers please let us know

0:34:44.399,0:34:48.240
what’s up

0:34:45.520,0:34:48.639
send us a message at how did we not know

0:34:48.240,0:34:51.919
that

0:34:48.639,0:34:53.679
gmail.com let us know how you’re doing

0:34:51.919,0:34:55.760
and what what’s going on over there

0:34:53.679,0:34:58.079
what’s it like do you do you need a visa

0:34:55.760,0:35:02.480
to go to northern ireland

0:34:58.079,0:35:04.800
yeah that was a good question and

0:35:02.480,0:35:07.040
basically yeah i talked about yeah signs

0:35:04.800,0:35:10.320
of the conflict can still be seen today

0:35:07.040,0:35:12.160
especially in belfast and uh

0:35:10.320,0:35:13.760
yeah there are physical walls separating

0:35:12.160,0:35:15.599
the communities

0:35:13.760,0:35:17.839
and there’s still occasional violence

0:35:15.599,0:35:20.160
but the government has a goal to remove

0:35:17.839,0:35:23.359
all of these so-called peace walls

0:35:20.160,0:35:25.440
by 2023. wow

0:35:23.359,0:35:27.040
okay interesting i also okay just

0:35:25.440,0:35:29.359
another remark i was just

0:35:27.040,0:35:31.119
like thinking about i wonder for the

0:35:29.359,0:35:33.520
brexit vote

0:35:31.119,0:35:35.599
i i’d be really interested to see what

0:35:33.520,0:35:38.880
the breakdown was like what each

0:35:35.599,0:35:41.040
region and like um what each

0:35:38.880,0:35:44.560
like country within the uk like voted

0:35:41.040,0:35:48.079
for like i wonder if like ireland

0:35:44.560,0:35:49.680
voted like strongly in favor or against

0:35:48.079,0:35:52.000
it compared to like yeah i wonder if

0:35:49.680,0:35:55.440
like the vote percentage is

0:35:52.000,0:35:58.160
like differed between

0:35:55.440,0:35:59.520
like england ireland scotland rails

0:35:58.160,0:36:02.640
that’d be really interesting

0:35:59.520,0:36:03.760
yeah let me see i will see if it breaks

0:36:02.640,0:36:07.119
down yeah it does break down

0:36:03.760,0:36:09.599
okay so the

0:36:07.119,0:36:11.040
wow this is so interesting i never

0:36:09.599,0:36:14.000
understood it and now

0:36:11.040,0:36:15.119
i’m like okay that’s what’s going on so

0:36:14.000,0:36:19.040
england

0:36:15.119,0:36:23.200
wow it was very close well okay scotland

0:36:19.040,0:36:26.960
um basically so england voted to leave

0:36:23.200,0:36:30.720
by 53 percent so close

0:36:26.960,0:36:32.640
northern ireland voted to stay by 55

0:36:30.720,0:36:35.440
percent

0:36:32.640,0:36:35.920
super close as well scotland voted to

0:36:35.440,0:36:38.960
stay

0:36:35.920,0:36:41.040
for 62 percent and then wales voted to

0:36:38.960,0:36:44.560
leave for 52

0:36:41.040,0:36:47.119
wow so it’s really close all

0:36:44.560,0:36:47.839
wow those like aren’t really big margins

0:36:47.119,0:36:49.760
you know

0:36:47.839,0:36:50.880
yeah it’s very close just scotland’s

0:36:49.760,0:36:53.200
like okay

0:36:50.880,0:36:54.720
it’s pretty clear you want to stay but

0:36:53.200,0:36:57.119
they lost still

0:36:54.720,0:36:59.200
because most people wanted to leave

0:36:57.119,0:37:00.880
after that then they had to vote like oh

0:36:59.200,0:37:02.560
should we stay in the uk

0:37:00.880,0:37:05.200
and then they were like yeah let’s stay

0:37:02.560,0:37:07.119
in the uk but then that vote was also

0:37:05.200,0:37:10.240
like very slim

0:37:07.119,0:37:13.839
yeah wow that’s so interesting

0:37:10.240,0:37:16.640
yeah i like never realized how

0:37:13.839,0:37:18.240
yeah the history of the uk was the

0:37:16.640,0:37:21.359
history of the uk is

0:37:18.240,0:37:21.920
a lot there’s a lot of stuff i have a

0:37:21.359,0:37:24.240
bias

0:37:21.920,0:37:26.400
towards european history but i’m going

0:37:24.240,0:37:29.119
to like challenge myself in season two

0:37:26.400,0:37:29.839
to become more aware and more informed

0:37:29.119,0:37:34.000
of

0:37:29.839,0:37:36.960
the history oh that’s nice i’m not

0:37:34.000,0:37:38.320
printing press i’m done that was enough

0:37:36.960,0:37:40.640
european history

0:37:38.320,0:37:42.000
that’s true but i guess like okay here’s

0:37:40.640,0:37:43.680
the thing it’s like even when we talked

0:37:42.000,0:37:46.720
about european history

0:37:43.680,0:37:47.359
in you like in the us in history class

0:37:46.720,0:37:48.880
and high school

0:37:47.359,0:37:50.400
like i feel like we didn’t talk about

0:37:48.880,0:37:52.800
this like

0:37:50.400,0:37:53.440
like uh just how the british came into

0:37:52.800,0:37:54.880
ireland

0:37:53.440,0:37:55.839
and like how there’s this huge division

0:37:54.880,0:37:57.280
and we didn’t like talk about like

0:37:55.839,0:38:00.240
minority voices

0:37:57.280,0:38:01.599
within the uk so i think true also

0:38:00.240,0:38:04.800
that’s really good to know

0:38:01.599,0:38:06.400
because for our viewers who aren’t aware

0:38:04.800,0:38:09.440
or even our american viewers

0:38:06.400,0:38:10.400
anytime you want to talk about racism in

0:38:09.440,0:38:12.880
the states

0:38:10.400,0:38:15.200
there’s always a white irish person

0:38:12.880,0:38:17.200
irish-american person who says

0:38:15.200,0:38:18.560
look at how the irish were treated and

0:38:17.200,0:38:20.240
this shows you

0:38:18.560,0:38:22.000
right now if you look into the history

0:38:20.240,0:38:24.400
of ireland that

0:38:22.000,0:38:25.520
the discrimination against irish was not

0:38:24.400,0:38:28.240
because they’re white

0:38:25.520,0:38:29.920
it’s because they were catholic so next

0:38:28.240,0:38:31.200
time you hear someone say that you can

0:38:29.920,0:38:33.440
say

0:38:31.200,0:38:35.200
it’s catholics versus protestants

0:38:33.440,0:38:36.640
because for people who don’t know about

0:38:35.200,0:38:37.280
the history of the united states if you

0:38:36.640,0:38:40.800
missed

0:38:37.280,0:38:42.560
season one um the

0:38:40.800,0:38:44.640
i guess biggest bullies in american

0:38:42.560,0:38:47.680
history are the protestant

0:38:44.640,0:38:49.359
english that came over well yeah and

0:38:47.680,0:38:52.160
like that’s the whole thing is like even

0:38:49.359,0:38:53.839
irish catholics in america were like

0:38:52.160,0:38:55.359
discriminated against

0:38:53.839,0:38:56.560
when they first came like you can’t

0:38:55.359,0:38:57.920
argue against that there’s a lot of

0:38:56.560,0:39:01.280
discrimination

0:38:57.920,0:39:04.720
however like yes irish catholics

0:39:01.280,0:39:07.599
in the us were paid less than american

0:39:04.720,0:39:08.480
like them protestant christians in the

0:39:07.599,0:39:10.400
us

0:39:08.480,0:39:12.400
but they were still paid more than

0:39:10.400,0:39:15.599
people of color within the u.s

0:39:12.400,0:39:16.560
and then once irish catholics started

0:39:15.599,0:39:19.760
unionizing

0:39:16.560,0:39:22.079
they did not include people of color

0:39:19.760,0:39:23.040
in their union protests and yeah they

0:39:22.079,0:39:26.160
like

0:39:23.040,0:39:28.560
so right there is intersectionality

0:39:26.160,0:39:30.240
between oppressions right it’s like

0:39:28.560,0:39:32.320
muslims who come to the states

0:39:30.240,0:39:34.160
especially from african countries

0:39:32.320,0:39:35.599
you’re discriminated on religion you’re

0:39:34.160,0:39:37.599
discriminated against by

0:39:35.599,0:39:40.000
color you’re discriminated against by

0:39:37.599,0:39:40.400
gender if you identify as transgender or

0:39:40.000,0:39:44.000
you

0:39:40.400,0:39:45.520
are female yeah like which country

0:39:44.000,0:39:46.960
you’re coming from like which continent

0:39:45.520,0:39:49.440
like yeah i know it’s like

0:39:46.960,0:39:50.079
there’s a lot of different degrees and

0:39:49.440,0:39:52.560
like

0:39:50.079,0:39:54.320
various layers yeah but yeah that that’s

0:39:52.560,0:39:57.599
the partition of ireland

0:39:54.320,0:40:00.720
wow that’s really interesting um i

0:39:57.599,0:40:02.480
really had no idea how intense their

0:40:00.720,0:40:04.400
history was so i’m really glad

0:40:02.480,0:40:05.599
we learned about that and now i got to

0:40:04.400,0:40:08.079
pay attention

0:40:05.599,0:40:09.599
to what’s going on in ireland like today

0:40:08.079,0:40:12.800
i really know nothing about

0:40:09.599,0:40:16.319
it so yeah thank you so much jack for

0:40:12.800,0:40:18.560
sharing this and for starting off season

0:40:16.319,0:40:19.520
two i’m so excited for the rest of

0:40:18.560,0:40:25.130
season two

0:40:19.520,0:40:35.860
yes of course yes bye

0:40:25.130,0:40:35.860
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Most Americans are familiar with the assassinations of JFK and Lincoln, but what about James Garfield? Despite the fact that he was considered to be one of the most promising presidents of his time, his life and unfortunate death is mostly forgotten today. In the Season 1 finale, Nat covers the assassination of President James Garfield and the man who was insane enough to carry out the deed.

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hi everyone welcome back to another

0:00:01.760,0:00:06.720
episode of how did we not know that

0:00:03.679,0:00:11.040
my name’s jack i’m nat

0:00:06.720,0:00:13.599
and today is our season finale

0:00:11.040,0:00:15.839
so nat is going to present on the last

0:00:13.599,0:00:19.359
topic for season one

0:00:15.839,0:00:21.920
yeah so we started with an

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assassination story and we’re ending

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with an assassination story

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so today i’ll be talking about the

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assassination of president james

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garfield

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and this story like it’s literally so

0:00:32.000,0:00:36.239
wild

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so before i get into it jack what do you

0:00:36.239,0:00:39.840
know

0:00:36.640,0:00:40.800
about president garfield um i’m trying

0:00:39.840,0:00:42.480
to think

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because someone gets assassinated

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towards the end of the

0:00:44.480,0:00:49.280
gilded age and then that did he get

0:00:47.440,0:00:52.320
assassinated in the gilded age

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it’s like he’s assassinated in 1881

0:00:52.320,0:00:56.079
okay so i think this is the one where

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after he’s actually think i know a bit

0:00:56.079,0:01:00.399
about this

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because i was gonna cover it but then he

0:01:00.399,0:01:05.119
basically got didn’t get shot at like a

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train station

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and this was and then it led to a bunch

0:01:07.600,0:01:12.159
of civil reform because it was a time

0:01:09.840,0:01:13.920
where everyone just had like one term as

0:01:12.159,0:01:16.960
president

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yeah yeah like i think in the

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gilded age episode you talked about the

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patronage and spoil system right

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so there’s a lot of reforms about that

0:01:23.600,0:01:26.400
system like because of president

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garfield and he was like really

0:01:26.400,0:01:31.360
progressive about

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like yeah okay it’s reform and

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everything yeah so

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okay he said i’m out i literally

0:01:36.640,0:01:39.680
like i had heard his name before but i

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don’t think i knew

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anything about him until i started doing

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research on this

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um but now that i’ve done my research

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i’m actually a huge garfield fan

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this dude is amazing and like i don’t

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know why we don’t talk about it more um

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so let’s get right into it so

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james at the time considered president

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garfield to be

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like one of the most promising

0:02:03.840,0:02:09.039
presidents of era

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he was born to a poor family in ohio

0:02:09.039,0:02:13.599
shout out to ohio and he was actually

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the last president to be born in a log

0:02:13.599,0:02:18.000
cabin

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so like that’s how long ago this was um

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he worked his way through college he

0:02:19.920,0:02:25.360
attended williams college

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and then he was a professor at ohio’s

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eclectic

0:02:26.080,0:02:30.720
university which is now known as like i

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think it’s hiram college i don’t know

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how to pronounce it hiram college maybe

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i’ve literally never heard of that

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university i’ve never heard of it either

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but he also like became president of

0:02:38.800,0:02:43.280
this university

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so that’s cool to see like how much he

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like

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he appreciates education and he’s also

0:02:47.920,0:02:51.040
a lifelong abolitionist so he fought to

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end

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slavery and wow in general

0:02:54.319,0:03:00.640
during the civil war so he like is

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an amazing man yeah solid this is like

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unheard of for this time period

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i know i’m like what the heck how did i

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not

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know this and then he later he decided

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to go into politics right

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so in 1863 he was elected to serve

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as an ohio congressman and he was a

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super big deal in the house

0:03:18.000,0:03:21.200
of representatives and he played a big

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role

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in like almost every major issue of the

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time

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people really respected him and he

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helped win the passage of the 14th and

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the 15th amendments which guaranteed

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equal rights for freed slaves

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so we love that what a progressive man

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what a decent human being

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and he was also just like known as a

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really

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great person overall he is described

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as having like a great amount of energy

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eloquence and charm

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he had five children and he was a really

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good dad

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he loved to play with his children and

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spent so much time with them

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which is like super unique i guess for

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this time period i feel like this is

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like the time period

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where like people think children should

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be seen not heard and like it’s very

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like strict you know like i don’t think

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you yeah

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they’re children back then but he was

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like such a good father

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and this is so sad that he

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dies in this episode you’re really

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hyping him up

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i know that as i was reading this i was

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like no

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not well i think this is so sad i wish

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they had a different ending

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but a spoiler alert like he dies

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but in 1881 he was elected as president

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he was a member of the republican party

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and he became the 20th president and he

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was only

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49 years old when he was elected and

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that made him the third

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youngest president when he took office

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so he was just a super young

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progressive guy and so he

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assumes office he becomes president and

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sadly

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his presidency only lasts four months

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and it actually yeah i know it’s like

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it’s really really short and really sad

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but his presidency actually had kind of

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a rocky

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beginning because he wanted to make

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really progressive changes right away

0:05:14.320,0:05:18.479
and his biggest focus as soon as he

0:05:17.120,0:05:21.280
assumed office was to

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eradicate the patronage and spoil system

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that was dominating the us government

0:05:23.280,0:05:26.320
so jack kind of mentioned it in a

0:05:25.120,0:05:28.720
previous episode

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in our last episode about the gilded age

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but just as a refresher

0:05:30.720,0:05:33.919
the patronage system is when a political

0:05:33.440,0:05:36.960
party

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gives important influential seats in

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government to its donors and supporters

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as a like a reward

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and it’s also an incentive to like have

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them keep working for the party

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so obviously like that’s not great

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because

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they’re being rewarded for their

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donations and that

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their merit so president garfield was

0:05:55.919,0:06:00.479
like

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uh no this is no bueno himself

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he like had he clashed with a lot of

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wealthy republicans who were trying to

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buy their way into

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his administration and these wealthy

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republicans were

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pretty upset because they had donated a

0:06:11.680,0:06:15.120
lot of money to his campaign and they

0:06:13.680,0:06:18.000
were like okay like give me

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give me the power now and he’s like no

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no thank you

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and so they were like really mad at him

0:06:21.520,0:06:26.240
i met at him

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but garfield was so determined to

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get rid of corruption in order to clear

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the way

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for policies focus on civil rights

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education and economic growth

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so oh my gosh i’m i love this man

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on top of all this like so he’s fighting

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with all of his wealthy supporters

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and then um to top it off like his wife

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lucretia almost dies from malaria like

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his first few months

0:06:52.479,0:06:58.160
in office um yeah oh my gosh

0:06:56.080,0:06:59.440
he’s like going through a lot well

0:06:58.160,0:07:01.360
besides like i mean he hasn’t been

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assassinated yet but he goes through a

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lot

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yeah it’s about to get worse for him but

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like so far

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it’s not super great um and so

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on july 2nd 1881

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president james garfield was leaving

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washington dc

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to take a much-needed vacation in new

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england he just needed

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a break and he was so excited because he

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was bringing his two teenage sons with

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him

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and his good friend secretary of state

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james

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g blaine and he was also planning on

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giving a speech to his alma mater

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williams college so he was really

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looking forward to this vacation

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so he leaves the white house and he

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takes a carriage ride

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to the baltimore and potomac train

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station

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where he would leave for new england

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uh and for those of you who are like

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familiar with washington dc

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the train station no longer exists today

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but it was located

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near the national mall also just like a

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side note when i was doing my research

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i’m like wow he took a carriage ride i’m

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like obviously that makes sense because

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it’s 1881 but in my head i was like

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that’s like so ancient he’s an

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ancient guy yeah right and

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okay so president garfield he wasn’t

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accompanied by any bodyguards or

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security

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because like at the time they didn’t

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they weren’t as worried about

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assassination attempts yeah like you

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said in the

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uh assassination or william mckinley was

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assassinated episode

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that wasn’t a thing to have secret

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service until after his assassination

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so it’s like non-existent for garfield

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as well

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yeah yeah so like uh james garfield

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would be the second president to be

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assassinated and then it was

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it isn’t it for it isn’t until after

0:08:48.959,0:08:52.959
president mckinley the third president

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to be assassinated where they’re like

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oh maybe we should get some

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security on these guys but yeah also

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it’s just like so crazy about it’s crazy

0:09:00.720,0:09:04.640
to think about

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like man how much has changed from 1881

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to today

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because uh like a few in 2016 i saw

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president barack obama speak at ohio

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and i like attended yeah i saw his

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speech and there was so

0:09:17.519,0:09:21.200
much security at that whole event and it

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was like

0:09:21.200,0:09:27.120
super scary and intimidating um

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but also okay not to get too much into

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rant

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um i guess our level of security

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that we’re used to seeing around the

0:09:32.640,0:09:36.320
president isn’t necessarily like a

0:09:35.120,0:09:38.880
global norm

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so when i was in canada like working in

0:09:38.880,0:09:42.959
the canadian government

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i would just see prime minister justin

0:09:42.959,0:09:46.399
trudeau like

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crossing the street to go to like center

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block which is like the main he would go

0:09:47.839,0:09:51.279
from the prime minister’s office to the

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main parliament building

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i would just like see him i’m like yeah

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there’d be a couple like security guys

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with him

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obviously but like yeah

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yeah actually same with new zealand i

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remember

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on their anzac day which is similar to

0:10:05.360,0:10:10.160
our memorial day in the united states

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jacinda arden the prime minister of new

0:10:10.160,0:10:14.560
zealand was just right there

0:10:11.920,0:10:15.279
watching like the anzac parade and

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everything

0:10:15.279,0:10:18.720
i was like i could talk to her right now

0:10:17.360,0:10:21.279
i have never seen

0:10:18.720,0:10:22.640
like any of our presidents this close

0:10:21.279,0:10:23.680
and just cinda’s just sitting right

0:10:22.640,0:10:26.640
there

0:10:23.680,0:10:28.000
dude that’s so exciting and that’s so

0:10:26.640,0:10:29.440
it’s like just so wild

0:10:28.000,0:10:31.120
i can’t think of a better word for it

0:10:29.440,0:10:33.600
but it’s so wild like

0:10:31.120,0:10:35.680
i saw like prime minister trudeau like

0:10:33.600,0:10:37.279
exiting the restroom one time and i was

0:10:35.680,0:10:39.760
just like what the heck

0:10:37.279,0:10:41.839
and like actually the most amount of

0:10:39.760,0:10:42.720
security i ever encountered in canada

0:10:41.839,0:10:45.519
was with

0:10:42.720,0:10:46.000
when vice president mike pence he

0:10:45.519,0:10:47.920
visited

0:10:46.000,0:10:50.720
canada and there was like the whole

0:10:47.920,0:10:54.560
street was like shut down and i was like

0:10:50.720,0:10:58.079
wow how much we have like changed since

0:10:54.560,0:10:58.720
james garfield to today yeah i wonder if

0:10:58.079,0:11:01.680
any of

0:10:58.720,0:11:03.680
these other countries have had like

0:11:01.680,0:11:04.800
multiple assassinations of their leaders

0:11:03.680,0:11:07.360
though because

0:11:04.800,0:11:08.079
yeah by the third one we’re like okay

0:11:07.360,0:11:11.200
maybe

0:11:08.079,0:11:13.440
it’s a dangerous position i don’t know i

0:11:11.200,0:11:14.240
yeah i think it depends like on the

0:11:13.440,0:11:16.320
region

0:11:14.240,0:11:18.000
in the country but like did there have

0:11:16.320,0:11:20.560
been countries like where there are like

0:11:18.000,0:11:21.519
military coups and like completely over

0:11:20.560,0:11:24.480
the

0:11:21.519,0:11:25.680
government too so i don’t know yeah i

0:11:24.480,0:11:28.880
just don’t know yeah i’d

0:11:25.680,0:11:30.000
like to compare standards of security

0:11:28.880,0:11:31.440
details for

0:11:30.000,0:11:33.279
government leaders around the world i

0:11:31.440,0:11:36.560
think it’d be interesting to

0:11:33.279,0:11:39.839
see the differences but yeah

0:11:36.560,0:11:43.279
so anyway um at 9

0:11:39.839,0:11:43.920
20 a.m president garfield entered the

0:11:43.279,0:11:45.920
station

0:11:43.920,0:11:47.839
and he’s walking arm-in-arm with his

0:11:45.920,0:11:51.120
friend secretary blaine

0:11:47.839,0:11:54.800
and as the men were crossing the lobby

0:11:51.120,0:11:56.959
charles j bruto gutel

0:11:54.800,0:11:58.480
yeah it’s a french last name i think i’m

0:11:56.959,0:12:01.519
pronouncing it right hopefully

0:11:58.480,0:12:02.000
but he sneaks up behind the two men and

0:12:01.519,0:12:04.959
he

0:12:02.000,0:12:06.160
drew his pistol and a witness would

0:12:04.959,0:12:09.600
later recall that

0:12:06.160,0:12:11.839
gutel’s eyes were steady and quote

0:12:09.600,0:12:13.680
his face presented the appearance of a

0:12:11.839,0:12:16.320
brave man who is determined

0:12:13.680,0:12:17.680
upon a desperate deed and meant to do it

0:12:16.320,0:12:20.880
calmly and well

0:12:17.680,0:12:21.920
unquote so guto fired two shots at the

0:12:20.880,0:12:24.000
president from

0:12:21.920,0:12:26.240
point blank rage range which we

0:12:24.000,0:12:28.240
discovered in our first episode is like

0:12:26.240,0:12:30.480
from right in front of you like directly

0:12:28.240,0:12:32.160
yeah like directly on your like skin or

0:12:30.480,0:12:34.000
something not skin but like directly

0:12:32.160,0:12:36.959
touching like your body

0:12:34.000,0:12:38.639
yeah like you’re super close um and so

0:12:36.959,0:12:41.040
the first bullet

0:12:38.639,0:12:41.839
grace garfield’s right arm and he

0:12:41.040,0:12:45.360
shouted

0:12:41.839,0:12:48.480
my god what is this um just so

0:12:45.360,0:12:51.120
like it’s so sad he was like like so

0:12:48.480,0:12:52.079
shocked obviously yeah his kids are with

0:12:51.120,0:12:55.200
him too

0:12:52.079,0:12:56.320
right yeah his kids are in the lobby not

0:12:55.200,0:12:59.360
directly next to him

0:12:56.320,0:13:00.959
but okay this train station but he’s

0:12:59.360,0:13:04.079
directly next to his friend

0:13:00.959,0:13:04.560
secretary of state james blaine and the

0:13:04.079,0:13:07.760
second

0:13:04.560,0:13:10.399
bullet that pluto shot was more accurate

0:13:07.760,0:13:10.880
and it struck president garfield’s lower

0:13:10.399,0:13:13.839
back

0:13:10.880,0:13:14.240
which knocked him to the floor and yeah

0:13:13.839,0:13:16.800
it was

0:13:14.240,0:13:17.680
so sad and immediately the station lobby

0:13:16.800,0:13:20.000
is filled with

0:13:17.680,0:13:21.440
screams from terrified and panicked

0:13:20.000,0:13:23.200
bystanders

0:13:21.440,0:13:24.959
and guteo actually tried to flee the

0:13:23.200,0:13:27.600
station but a man

0:13:24.959,0:13:28.639
blocked the door and then a ticket agent

0:13:27.600,0:13:30.560
and a police officer

0:13:28.639,0:13:31.760
came and grabbed him so he couldn’t

0:13:30.560,0:13:34.399
leave and

0:13:31.760,0:13:35.360
gutel is immediately surrounded by an

0:13:34.399,0:13:37.839
angry mob of

0:13:35.360,0:13:38.560
bystanders and they’re all shouting

0:13:37.839,0:13:41.760
lynch him

0:13:38.560,0:13:43.680
lynch him and like because they

0:13:41.760,0:13:45.440
could tell like obviously he was the one

0:13:43.680,0:13:47.040
who shot the president

0:13:45.440,0:13:48.639
and yeah so they’re like swarming up

0:13:47.040,0:13:51.600
against him and they’re getting violent

0:13:48.639,0:13:53.360
and so at pluto’s own request the police

0:13:51.600,0:13:54.320
escort him to the safety of the

0:13:53.360,0:13:56.320
jailhouse

0:13:54.320,0:13:57.839
so that he’s like not attacked by the

0:13:56.320,0:14:01.600
angry mob

0:13:57.839,0:14:05.519
so you might be wondering who is charles

0:14:01.600,0:14:06.079
j guto so he at the time he’s 39 years

0:14:05.519,0:14:09.519
old

0:14:06.079,0:14:09.519
he’s from illinois

0:14:10.240,0:14:14.320
oh from my fellow listeners from

0:14:12.399,0:14:17.519
illinois he’s from freeport

0:14:14.320,0:14:21.440
if that gives you any insight

0:14:17.519,0:14:25.440
and he lived a very unique life

0:14:21.440,0:14:28.000
um he’s also not very mentally sane

0:14:25.440,0:14:28.480
and family members and acquaintances had

0:14:28.000,0:14:30.880
always

0:14:28.480,0:14:32.320
suspected that he was insane he was not

0:14:30.880,0:14:34.160
mentally sound

0:14:32.320,0:14:36.480
he spent the majority of his life

0:14:34.160,0:14:39.760
drifting from city to city

0:14:36.480,0:14:42.240
he had a million different jobs

0:14:39.760,0:14:43.279
he at one point he was a lawyer a

0:14:42.240,0:14:46.560
preacher

0:14:43.279,0:14:49.680
a bill collector and a salesman

0:14:46.560,0:14:50.480
and he even spent some time living in a

0:14:49.680,0:14:53.519
free love

0:14:50.480,0:14:55.440
religious commune um but

0:14:53.519,0:14:57.120
even though the commune practiced like

0:14:55.440,0:14:59.839
group marriage and they

0:14:57.120,0:15:00.399
wanted to love everyone they kicked

0:14:59.839,0:15:03.440
guteo

0:15:00.399,0:15:04.560
out because he was he did not vibe well

0:15:03.440,0:15:08.320
with them i guess

0:15:04.560,0:15:09.040
um but i think the craziest thing he

0:15:08.320,0:15:11.920
ever

0:15:09.040,0:15:13.440
did was decide to attend the university

0:15:11.920,0:15:16.399
of michigan

0:15:13.440,0:15:17.680
oh my god makes sense michigan still

0:15:16.399,0:15:20.480
sucks

0:15:17.680,0:15:20.720
michigan still sucks sorry guys but this

0:15:20.480,0:15:22.560
is

0:15:20.720,0:15:23.760
yeah no offense to our michigan

0:15:22.560,0:15:26.959
listeners we’re not

0:15:23.760,0:15:28.880
i’m just kidding it’s not all of our

0:15:26.959,0:15:31.199
michigan listeners just immediately like

0:15:28.880,0:15:34.240
unsubscribe but

0:15:31.199,0:15:37.519
all right guys it’s all me meanwhile but

0:15:34.240,0:15:39.920
um and so additionally he is very

0:15:37.519,0:15:40.959
involved in politics and he’s a hardcore

0:15:39.920,0:15:44.399
republican

0:15:40.959,0:15:45.120
he wrote a speech on garfield’s behalf

0:15:44.399,0:15:47.600
during the

0:15:45.120,0:15:49.440
1880 presidential election and even

0:15:47.600,0:15:51.519
though like literally no one heard it

0:15:49.440,0:15:53.279
or paid attention to it it was just like

0:15:51.519,0:15:56.079
his own speech whatever

0:15:53.279,0:15:58.480
gutel believed that his speech was a key

0:15:56.079,0:16:00.959
factor in garfield’s victory

0:15:58.480,0:16:02.880
um and so like in his mind he was like

0:16:00.959,0:16:05.920
one of the main reasons why garfield

0:16:02.880,0:16:07.040
won and so after president garfield is

0:16:05.920,0:16:11.279
inaugurated

0:16:07.040,0:16:12.079
guto moves to dc and he visits the white

0:16:11.279,0:16:15.440
house

0:16:12.079,0:16:16.959
very frequently and he i don’t know the

0:16:15.440,0:16:19.440
details but somehow

0:16:16.959,0:16:21.120
he managed to arrange a personal meeting

0:16:19.440,0:16:24.320
with president garfield

0:16:21.120,0:16:26.800
which is so messed up in this meeting

0:16:24.320,0:16:27.519
he gave president garfield a copy of his

0:16:26.800,0:16:29.920
speech

0:16:27.519,0:16:31.759
and he was like hey i wrote you the

0:16:29.920,0:16:34.880
speech i helped you in this election

0:16:31.759,0:16:38.079
can you reward me with a

0:16:34.880,0:16:41.279
diplomatic position in paris and

0:16:38.079,0:16:44.160
obviously garfield said no and

0:16:41.279,0:16:45.120
bhutto was like was furious he was

0:16:44.160,0:16:47.920
enraged

0:16:45.120,0:16:48.399
uh he was really upset with garfield’s

0:16:47.920,0:16:51.440
view

0:16:48.399,0:16:52.959
on like his work towards removing the

0:16:51.440,0:16:55.279
patronage system

0:16:52.959,0:16:56.880
and he wanted revenge because he thought

0:16:55.279,0:16:59.279
he had been

0:16:56.880,0:17:00.160
like screwed over yeah i remember

0:16:59.279,0:17:02.839
reading that

0:17:00.160,0:17:04.079
he really thought that he deserved this

0:17:02.839,0:17:05.919
position

0:17:04.079,0:17:07.360
and then to not get it was like which

0:17:05.919,0:17:09.679
that’s hard because that’s like

0:17:07.360,0:17:11.679
a diplomatic position to be sent

0:17:09.679,0:17:13.120
overseas and like the government pays

0:17:11.679,0:17:14.799
for you to handle international

0:17:13.120,0:17:16.959
relations like you have to take

0:17:14.799,0:17:19.039
you see like nan and i are studying to

0:17:16.959,0:17:19.600
just take a test for a chance to get to

0:17:19.039,0:17:22.880
do that

0:17:19.600,0:17:24.400
so like to just demand it in that time

0:17:22.880,0:17:25.919
which i don’t know how diplomats were

0:17:24.400,0:17:28.400
assigned back then was it

0:17:25.919,0:17:31.120
probably part of the spoils system too

0:17:28.400,0:17:34.080
yeah i think it was kind of like you

0:17:31.120,0:17:35.679
rewarded your friends and like your your

0:17:34.080,0:17:37.360
top donors at the time

0:17:35.679,0:17:38.559
but that’s why garfield wanted to change

0:17:37.360,0:17:40.559
all that because he’s like we should be

0:17:38.559,0:17:44.240
sending our best and our brightest

0:17:40.559,0:17:46.240
not the most wealthiest so yeah so like

0:17:44.240,0:17:48.240
really took it personally and he like

0:17:46.240,0:17:52.240
became obsessed over

0:17:48.240,0:17:55.520
um this um and so

0:17:52.240,0:17:58.240
one night while lying in bed guto had

0:17:55.520,0:17:59.520
what he described as a flash of divine

0:17:58.240,0:18:01.360
inspiration

0:17:59.520,0:18:03.679
he thought that god wanted him to kill

0:18:01.360,0:18:06.320
the president and that this

0:18:03.679,0:18:06.880
the murder of james garfield was a

0:18:06.320,0:18:10.240
mission

0:18:06.880,0:18:12.160
from god he was convinced that

0:18:10.240,0:18:14.160
the death of james garfield would save

0:18:12.160,0:18:17.120
the country because it would allow

0:18:14.160,0:18:18.480
his vice president chester a arthur to

0:18:17.120,0:18:21.200
take his place

0:18:18.480,0:18:22.480
and after this decision guteo stalked

0:18:21.200,0:18:24.640
garfield across

0:18:22.480,0:18:26.559
washington for weeks waiting to shoot

0:18:24.640,0:18:28.320
him so he

0:18:26.559,0:18:30.080
like was really determined it wasn’t

0:18:28.320,0:18:34.080
just like a one-time thing

0:18:30.080,0:18:36.400
it was like a really long process he

0:18:34.080,0:18:37.679
was so methodical about planning this

0:18:36.400,0:18:40.240
murder it’s really

0:18:37.679,0:18:41.360
frightening he conducted target practice

0:18:40.240,0:18:44.720
with an

0:18:41.360,0:18:47.120
handed 44 caliber pistol and he bought

0:18:44.720,0:18:49.600
this specific gun because he thought it

0:18:47.120,0:18:51.840
would look good in a museum one day

0:18:49.600,0:18:53.840
he tried to take a tour of the district

0:18:51.840,0:18:54.640
jail because he assumed he would be

0:18:53.840,0:18:57.200
living there

0:18:54.640,0:18:58.960
once he was arrested and that’s

0:18:57.200,0:19:02.080
literally so creepy

0:18:58.960,0:19:04.480
what dude and then listen to this

0:19:02.080,0:19:06.720
he carried a letter in his pocket that

0:19:04.480,0:19:09.360
was addressed to the white house saying

0:19:06.720,0:19:10.880
quote the president’s tragic death was a

0:19:09.360,0:19:13.360
sad necessity but it will

0:19:10.880,0:19:14.240
unite the republican party and save the

0:19:13.360,0:19:16.240
republic

0:19:14.240,0:19:17.679
life is a fleeting dream and it matters

0:19:16.240,0:19:21.120
little when one goes

0:19:17.679,0:19:24.559
unquote like this it’s so

0:19:21.120,0:19:27.919
creepy yeah that’s creepy yeah

0:19:24.559,0:19:30.559
um so yeah

0:19:27.919,0:19:31.039
wait okay i’m curious does he have any

0:19:30.559,0:19:32.960
money

0:19:31.039,0:19:34.960
because we know during the gilded age

0:19:32.960,0:19:36.080
from the last episode so you want to be

0:19:34.960,0:19:38.640
a billionaire

0:19:36.080,0:19:40.880
um there’s just like insane amounts of

0:19:38.640,0:19:45.120
wealth disparity between

0:19:40.880,0:19:47.760
uh people in the united states so

0:19:45.120,0:19:48.960
i’m curious as to how much money he had

0:19:47.760,0:19:51.520
and if he was able to

0:19:48.960,0:19:52.480
buy his position like or if he attempted

0:19:51.520,0:19:54.400
to

0:19:52.480,0:19:55.760
yeah i actually don’t know the answer to

0:19:54.400,0:19:57.039
that i don’t know how much money he had

0:19:55.760,0:19:59.840
but i would assume

0:19:57.039,0:20:02.080
he had enough to live comfortably

0:19:59.840,0:20:05.280
because like he keeps changing his

0:20:02.080,0:20:08.159
job and he keeps moving location so

0:20:05.280,0:20:09.760
i mean i don’t know what his yeah i

0:20:08.159,0:20:10.480
don’t really know the specifics but i

0:20:09.760,0:20:11.600
would assume

0:20:10.480,0:20:14.159
i don’t think he came from like an

0:20:11.600,0:20:17.200
incredibly wealthy family but i think he

0:20:14.159,0:20:20.080
like made just enough to be able to

0:20:17.200,0:20:20.960
switch careers like every year and then

0:20:20.080,0:20:24.320
move

0:20:20.960,0:20:26.799
across the country all the time um yeah

0:20:24.320,0:20:28.720
i’m sure yeah he doesn’t sound like he

0:20:26.799,0:20:31.120
has a lot of like

0:20:28.720,0:20:32.240
high morals either so yeah it doesn’t

0:20:31.120,0:20:34.640
sound like he’s working

0:20:32.240,0:20:34.640
like for

0:20:37.120,0:20:40.559
like he doesn’t have a 401k i don’t

0:20:38.960,0:20:43.919
think

0:20:40.559,0:20:45.039
a retirement um yeah but that’s a good

0:20:43.919,0:20:48.400
question

0:20:45.039,0:20:51.919
and okay so after

0:20:48.400,0:20:54.240
he is shot by gutel president garfield

0:20:51.919,0:20:55.360
is lying down on the train station floor

0:20:54.240,0:20:58.720
and he is bleeding

0:20:55.360,0:21:01.440
profusely and after only a few minutes

0:20:58.720,0:21:03.600
10 different doctors arrive at the scene

0:21:01.440,0:21:04.720
to examine him and try to locate the

0:21:03.600,0:21:05.919
second bullet

0:21:04.720,0:21:07.760
and so this will be like the whole

0:21:05.919,0:21:08.799
struggle is like no one can ever find a

0:21:07.760,0:21:12.240
second bullet

0:21:08.799,0:21:15.039
and at the time nobody knew it but this

0:21:12.240,0:21:16.000
bullet had missed garfield’s major

0:21:15.039,0:21:18.799
arteries and

0:21:16.000,0:21:20.640
vital organs and it like lodged itself

0:21:18.799,0:21:23.679
near his pancreas

0:21:20.640,0:21:26.960
which this is like a survivable injury

0:21:23.679,0:21:29.520
however the group of doctors that were

0:21:26.960,0:21:30.559
like there at the scene they were

0:21:29.520,0:21:32.799
well-meaning

0:21:30.559,0:21:34.159
but they only made the situation worse

0:21:32.799,0:21:37.360
because they were using

0:21:34.159,0:21:39.120
unsterilized instruments and like dirty

0:21:37.360,0:21:40.960
fingers to treat the wound

0:21:39.120,0:21:42.960
and so this introduced a lot of germs to

0:21:40.960,0:21:46.559
it and caused a major effect

0:21:42.960,0:21:47.600
infection yeah that’s so sad because

0:21:46.559,0:21:49.600
isn’t the

0:21:47.600,0:21:51.039
william mckinley assassination if i’m

0:21:49.600,0:21:51.919
remembering correctly wasn’t it the

0:21:51.039,0:21:54.000
second bullet

0:21:51.919,0:21:55.360
as well that ended up getting infected

0:21:54.000,0:21:57.520
and he died

0:21:55.360,0:21:58.640
yeah yeah it was like the same thing

0:21:57.520,0:22:01.360
where like the first

0:21:58.640,0:22:02.720
bullet like barely bothered him and like

0:22:01.360,0:22:04.640
it barely

0:22:02.720,0:22:06.000
uh hurt him and then the second one was

0:22:04.640,0:22:08.799
like and they also had

0:22:06.000,0:22:09.440
they never removed the bullet so there

0:22:08.799,0:22:11.679
are

0:22:09.440,0:22:12.720
like quite a few similarities between

0:22:11.679,0:22:15.120
the two

0:22:12.720,0:22:16.960
assassinations but and they’re like very

0:22:15.120,0:22:20.400
close to each other also

0:22:16.960,0:22:23.600
um and so after a full hour

0:22:20.400,0:22:24.640
of excruciating prodding i don’t have a

0:22:23.600,0:22:27.200
better there’s probably no

0:22:24.640,0:22:29.120
anesthesia just fingers in there

0:22:27.200,0:22:30.559
literally like and he’s just on this

0:22:29.120,0:22:32.320
train station floor for an

0:22:30.559,0:22:33.600
hour and like all these people are just

0:22:32.320,0:22:35.840
like poking at him

0:22:33.600,0:22:37.039
oh my gosh i can’t even imagine um so

0:22:35.840,0:22:39.039
after an hour of this

0:22:37.039,0:22:40.720
president garfield was carried from the

0:22:39.039,0:22:42.880
train station to a bedroom

0:22:40.720,0:22:44.559
in the white house and the doctors

0:22:42.880,0:22:47.600
didn’t think he would survive

0:22:44.559,0:22:49.600
the night but garfield was like really

0:22:47.600,0:22:50.880
strong and he put on a brave face for

0:22:49.600,0:22:52.640
his children

0:22:50.880,0:22:54.159
because they were like with him at the

0:22:52.640,0:22:55.600
scene and he like told his shoulder and

0:22:54.159,0:22:58.320
that like he was gonna be okay

0:22:55.600,0:22:59.840
he’s gonna make it um and the newspapers

0:22:58.320,0:23:02.960
reported medical updates

0:22:59.840,0:23:06.640
updates daily and americans read

0:23:02.960,0:23:09.520
each update extremely intently and

0:23:06.640,0:23:11.120
he stayed strong the first few days but

0:23:09.520,0:23:14.480
his condition got worse

0:23:11.120,0:23:17.200
after his doctor his doctor’s name is

0:23:14.480,0:23:19.120
dr willard bliss like literally his

0:23:17.200,0:23:22.240
first name is doctor

0:23:19.120,0:23:26.320
i like what yeah i know

0:23:22.240,0:23:28.559
so it’s dr dr willis liss yeah yeah yeah

0:23:26.320,0:23:29.440
it’s interesting it’s not what his mom

0:23:28.559,0:23:32.799
wanted him to be

0:23:29.440,0:23:35.520
like yeah i’m like he had no choice in

0:23:32.799,0:23:37.520
his future that’s some pressure yeah

0:23:35.520,0:23:38.640
yeah like if your name is doctor and

0:23:37.520,0:23:42.320
then you become

0:23:38.640,0:23:46.080
like a stand-up comedian

0:23:42.320,0:23:48.799
you got no choice but anyway so dr bliss

0:23:46.080,0:23:50.559
he administered heavy doses of morphine

0:23:48.799,0:23:52.640
and alcohol

0:23:50.559,0:23:55.679
and this made garfield really sick and

0:23:52.640,0:23:58.559
it left him weak and emaciated

0:23:55.679,0:24:00.000
and still like none of these doctors

0:23:58.559,0:24:02.880
could find a second bullet

0:24:00.000,0:24:04.000
so dr bliss actually invited alexander

0:24:02.880,0:24:06.640
graham bell

0:24:04.000,0:24:08.880
the inventor of the telephone uh he

0:24:06.640,0:24:12.000
invited him to the white house to

0:24:08.880,0:24:14.000
try his new invention the metal detector

0:24:12.000,0:24:15.840
uh he wanted him to use it to try to

0:24:14.000,0:24:17.600
find the second bullet

0:24:15.840,0:24:19.279
but like this didn’t work for two

0:24:17.600,0:24:20.960
reasons so first

0:24:19.279,0:24:22.400
there was a lot of interference from the

0:24:20.960,0:24:25.919
metal springs on

0:24:22.400,0:24:28.400
garfield’s bed and then second

0:24:25.919,0:24:29.200
bell like alexander graham bell was only

0:24:28.400,0:24:31.919
allowed to search

0:24:29.200,0:24:32.480
the right side of his body because dr

0:24:31.919,0:24:34.559
bliss

0:24:32.480,0:24:35.919
incorrectly believed that where that was

0:24:34.559,0:24:37.760
where the bullet was lodged

0:24:35.919,0:24:40.000
so he’s like only check the right side

0:24:37.760,0:24:43.120
even though like the dude i feel like

0:24:40.000,0:24:44.080
dr bliss is not a doctor i feel like his

0:24:43.120,0:24:47.120
first name was

0:24:44.080,0:24:48.320
doctor and they misunderstood like is

0:24:47.120,0:24:51.360
that his only credential

0:24:48.320,0:24:53.600
is that his name like

0:24:51.360,0:24:55.679
he really was a stand-up comedian this

0:24:53.600,0:24:57.919
is what actually happened

0:24:55.679,0:25:00.000
honestly oh my gosh yeah it’s really

0:24:57.919,0:25:02.720
frustrating like in hindsight

0:25:00.000,0:25:05.120
to see how poorly yeah you could just

0:25:02.720,0:25:06.559
put him on the ground and then check his

0:25:05.120,0:25:08.640
whole body

0:25:06.559,0:25:10.720
yeah i don’t know why he was like so

0:25:08.640,0:25:12.640
stubborn about only the right side like

0:25:10.720,0:25:13.360
i don’t know if it took a long time and

0:25:12.640,0:25:16.320
like was

0:25:13.360,0:25:17.520
hard for president garfield to like bear

0:25:16.320,0:25:18.720
but like i don’t know why wouldn’t you

0:25:17.520,0:25:19.440
just take the whole body while you’re

0:25:18.720,0:25:22.960
there

0:25:19.440,0:25:25.440
conspiracy theory what what if

0:25:22.960,0:25:27.039
dr bliss actually supported the

0:25:25.440,0:25:29.520
assassination because he wanted the

0:25:27.039,0:25:32.960
patronage system to continue

0:25:29.520,0:25:32.960
dude oh my gosh

0:25:33.120,0:25:37.760
yeah i mean it sounds like it why would

0:25:35.440,0:25:40.799
you what doctor would just

0:25:37.760,0:25:42.000
be like nah check just one side and if

0:25:40.799,0:25:44.799
it’s not there then you’re like

0:25:42.000,0:25:47.200
well um like just check the other side

0:25:44.799,0:25:49.520
like if you couldn’t find it on one side

0:25:47.200,0:25:51.039
right and it’s it’s the president of the

0:25:49.520,0:25:52.960
united states like you guys

0:25:51.039,0:25:54.799
like you have the whole country like

0:25:52.960,0:25:57.360
kind of like

0:25:54.799,0:26:00.000
a guy really yeah literally anyone like

0:25:57.360,0:26:03.440
get another doctor please

0:26:00.000,0:26:06.000
honestly um yeah i mean i don’t i know

0:26:03.440,0:26:08.400
nothing about medicine but it seems

0:26:06.000,0:26:08.400
fishy

0:26:08.559,0:26:14.400
but so okay so by september

0:26:11.919,0:26:15.279
um so as a reminder so garfield was shot

0:26:14.400,0:26:18.159
in july

0:26:15.279,0:26:19.120
and by september president garfield had

0:26:18.159,0:26:22.080
a massive

0:26:19.120,0:26:23.840
infection like he was in sepsis i think

0:26:22.080,0:26:25.520
that’s what you call it like sepsis

0:26:23.840,0:26:28.000
where like your entire body

0:26:25.520,0:26:30.000
and all your organs are infected and

0:26:28.000,0:26:31.600
this was most likely caused by his

0:26:30.000,0:26:34.400
medical treatment

0:26:31.600,0:26:36.720
and he was left with a persistent fever

0:26:34.400,0:26:39.279
and he had like abscesses

0:26:36.720,0:26:40.240
all over his body like i think that’s

0:26:39.279,0:26:43.440
like

0:26:40.240,0:26:43.840
welts kind of like i yeah i don’t really

0:26:43.440,0:26:47.039
know

0:26:43.840,0:26:47.760
um like blisters almost like boiled or

0:26:47.039,0:26:50.960
something

0:26:47.760,0:26:52.960
yeah kind of like that like okay

0:26:50.960,0:26:54.880
really painful though and like

0:26:52.960,0:26:57.919
everything like festering and

0:26:54.880,0:27:02.320
he’s really not doing well he

0:26:57.919,0:27:04.960
so before his shooting he was 210 pounds

0:27:02.320,0:27:06.240
and by the time of his death he’s 130

0:27:04.960,0:27:09.760
pounds

0:27:06.240,0:27:13.200
so wow so much weight

0:27:09.760,0:27:16.000
like from all these infections how

0:27:13.200,0:27:17.039
what was the time progression sorry no

0:27:16.000,0:27:21.200
you’re fine it was

0:27:17.039,0:27:23.840
july um it was beginning of july

0:27:21.200,0:27:24.960
and then he spoiler he dies early

0:27:23.840,0:27:28.720
september

0:27:24.960,0:27:30.640
so whoa he lived a long time actually

0:27:28.720,0:27:32.159
okay i was like i was assuming it was

0:27:30.640,0:27:34.480
gonna happen in a few days i was like

0:27:32.159,0:27:37.679
how do you drop a hundred pounds

0:27:34.480,0:27:39.440
in like a week or something dude no

0:27:37.679,0:27:41.200
yeah it’s like really sad though like

0:27:39.440,0:27:41.919
the doctors did not think he would

0:27:41.200,0:27:43.600
survive

0:27:41.919,0:27:45.360
the first day like they thought he was

0:27:43.600,0:27:48.720
gonna die within a matter of hours

0:27:45.360,0:27:50.559
but he held on but like he was in

0:27:48.720,0:27:52.240
an extreme amount of pain this whole

0:27:50.559,0:27:55.520
time so he’s like suffering

0:27:52.240,0:27:59.039
for months so it’s like really

0:27:55.520,0:28:01.279
sad um and so like so

0:27:59.039,0:28:03.200
president garfield is finally taken to a

0:28:01.279,0:28:03.679
cottage on the jersey shore because they

0:28:03.200,0:28:06.720
thought

0:28:03.679,0:28:07.919
that the cold sea air might help revive

0:28:06.720,0:28:09.520
him

0:28:07.919,0:28:11.600
and he wanted to be like in a peaceful

0:28:09.520,0:28:15.520
place and

0:28:11.600,0:28:16.320
however after 79 days of excruciating

0:28:15.520,0:28:18.399
pain

0:28:16.320,0:28:19.520
james garfield died on the night of

0:28:18.399,0:28:23.039
september 19

0:28:19.520,0:28:24.640
1881 and he was president for only 200

0:28:23.039,0:28:27.760
days

0:28:24.640,0:28:30.880
so that really sucks it really

0:28:27.760,0:28:33.679
sucks and like i don’t know

0:28:30.880,0:28:35.279
just the reason for his murder is kind

0:28:33.679,0:28:37.840
of frustrating too

0:28:35.279,0:28:38.480
yeah they kill all the best presidents

0:28:37.840,0:28:41.039
yeah

0:28:38.480,0:28:41.919
like they really do be like that really

0:28:41.039,0:28:44.799
what the heck

0:28:41.919,0:28:45.440
honestly he had so much potential he

0:28:44.799,0:28:48.640
seemed like

0:28:45.440,0:28:52.159
he was he wanted to do make a lot of

0:28:48.640,0:28:52.880
good change in his time uh it just shows

0:28:52.159,0:28:54.960
like i guess

0:28:52.880,0:28:56.000
when you try to challenge the status quo

0:28:54.960,0:28:59.679
how dangerous

0:28:56.000,0:29:03.360
it can be that’s true that’s true like

0:28:59.679,0:29:06.000
people are not super excited about

0:29:03.360,0:29:08.559
big change yeah especially really

0:29:06.000,0:29:12.240
important changes like ending slavery

0:29:08.559,0:29:15.279
shot your pyramid god like

0:29:12.240,0:29:18.320
oh it’s pretty bad command

0:29:15.279,0:29:22.000
yeah it’s it’s a it’s a difficult thing

0:29:18.320,0:29:24.799
um and so yeah now let’s do

0:29:22.000,0:29:26.159
let’s see what happens to guto so

0:29:24.799,0:29:29.360
charles guiteau

0:29:26.159,0:29:33.279
his myrtle chart murder trial began

0:29:29.360,0:29:35.679
in november 1881 so like pretty much

0:29:33.279,0:29:36.320
like a couple months after president

0:29:35.679,0:29:39.600
garfield

0:29:36.320,0:29:40.240
passes away and he was hated so much by

0:29:39.600,0:29:43.360
the public

0:29:40.240,0:29:44.159
that the court had to go through 150

0:29:43.360,0:29:47.279
different men

0:29:44.159,0:29:50.720
in order to assemble an impartial jury

0:29:47.279,0:29:52.399
and on two separate occasions people had

0:29:50.720,0:29:55.440
like come and tried to shoot him

0:29:52.399,0:29:57.840
so like everyone oh man okay

0:29:55.440,0:29:58.799
we’re so pissed they were like dude we

0:29:57.840,0:30:02.399
really liked him

0:29:58.799,0:30:06.399
and you suck um yeah

0:30:02.399,0:30:09.440
yeah and so at his trial gutel pleaded

0:30:06.399,0:30:11.840
not guilty by reason of insanity

0:30:09.440,0:30:13.760
arguing that the murder had been god’s

0:30:11.840,0:30:16.000
act and not his

0:30:13.760,0:30:17.840
and this is like fun fact this is

0:30:16.000,0:30:19.760
actually one of the first high profile

0:30:17.840,0:30:22.799
cases in american history

0:30:19.760,0:30:23.840
um that uses for like someone to use the

0:30:22.799,0:30:27.200
insanity plea

0:30:23.840,0:30:30.559
in court so it was like a first

0:30:27.200,0:30:32.720
for them and guto his lawyers

0:30:30.559,0:30:36.240
also argued that president garfield’s

0:30:32.720,0:30:37.679
death was the doctor’s fault and not his

0:30:36.240,0:30:39.520
and i thought this was like super

0:30:37.679,0:30:42.240
interesting and this is actually

0:30:39.520,0:30:44.720
like partly true many historians believe

0:30:42.240,0:30:47.279
that garfield would have survived

0:30:44.720,0:30:48.000
if it weren’t for the limitations in

0:30:47.279,0:30:52.320
medicine

0:30:48.000,0:30:54.960
in the 18 in the late 1800s um

0:30:52.320,0:30:56.399
yeah but it still like would have been

0:30:54.960,0:30:58.960
difficult to survive so

0:30:56.399,0:31:00.000
who really knows right and also

0:30:58.960,0:31:01.600
absolutely

0:31:00.000,0:31:04.720
because we talked about in the last

0:31:01.600,0:31:07.279
episode how low health standards were

0:31:04.720,0:31:09.840
and they didn’t get changed until 1916.

0:31:07.279,0:31:11.919
that’s so gross that all just these

0:31:09.840,0:31:14.559
random people from the train station

0:31:11.919,0:31:16.000
well not random but random doctors show

0:31:14.559,0:31:17.919
up at this train station

0:31:16.000,0:31:19.519
you assume they’re doctors maybe their

0:31:17.919,0:31:22.080
first name is just doctor

0:31:19.519,0:31:25.279
and they’re just touching your wounds

0:31:22.080,0:31:27.600
with no gloves no sanitary equipment

0:31:25.279,0:31:28.799
i don’t know if they wash their hands

0:31:27.600,0:31:31.519
well dude probably not

0:31:28.799,0:31:32.880
they’re just like trying to act and help

0:31:31.519,0:31:34.399
him immediately and they don’t think

0:31:32.880,0:31:34.880
about it and actually i think i was

0:31:34.399,0:31:38.159
reading

0:31:34.880,0:31:38.880
i’m pretty sure but i think like right

0:31:38.159,0:31:40.559
after

0:31:38.880,0:31:42.159
like very soon after president

0:31:40.559,0:31:43.840
garfield’s death like maybe within like

0:31:42.159,0:31:46.960
the next 20 or 30 years

0:31:43.840,0:31:49.760
that’s when they like discovered

0:31:46.960,0:31:50.399
that like you can introduce germs into

0:31:49.760,0:31:52.000
the body

0:31:50.399,0:31:54.559
and like cause infections if you don’t

0:31:52.000,0:31:58.159
sterilize things properly and so like

0:31:54.559,0:32:00.960
that yeah people like medicine

0:31:58.159,0:32:01.600
changed like soon after this yeah okay

0:32:00.960,0:32:04.000
so even

0:32:01.600,0:32:05.279
during this time then the doctors didn’t

0:32:04.000,0:32:07.279
even know that that

0:32:05.279,0:32:08.799
you could infect if you touched like

0:32:07.279,0:32:12.399
that okay yeah it like

0:32:08.799,0:32:13.279
wasn’t common knowledge or common

0:32:12.399,0:32:15.200
practice

0:32:13.279,0:32:18.000
or like maybe like there were

0:32:15.200,0:32:20.240
sterilization efforts but it was not

0:32:18.000,0:32:21.039
like up to the standard it is today like

0:32:20.240,0:32:23.200
it wasn’t

0:32:21.039,0:32:24.960
completely scary yeah i don’t know this

0:32:23.200,0:32:27.200
is that’s a smart lawyer

0:32:24.960,0:32:28.159
that lawyer is very smart if before you

0:32:27.200,0:32:30.799
even understand

0:32:28.159,0:32:31.279
infections like no one understands on a

0:32:30.799,0:32:33.360
on a

0:32:31.279,0:32:35.120
like national scale people don’t really

0:32:33.360,0:32:37.120
understand how infections work

0:32:35.120,0:32:38.559
that the lawyer used that and said that

0:32:37.120,0:32:39.679
the doctors had killed him from

0:32:38.559,0:32:42.000
infection

0:32:39.679,0:32:42.799
yeah for real and like well they said it

0:32:42.000,0:32:44.320
was like their

0:32:42.799,0:32:46.320
medical treatment so i don’t know if you

0:32:44.320,0:32:48.240
specified infection but like i thought

0:32:46.320,0:32:49.120
that was still such a clever argument to

0:32:48.240,0:32:51.840
be like

0:32:49.120,0:32:52.720
yo like obviously it had to do with the

0:32:51.840,0:32:56.000
doctors

0:32:52.720,0:32:57.200
and so yeah yeah that is really smart

0:32:56.000,0:32:59.600
i don’t even think i would have come up

0:32:57.200,0:33:02.960
with that i’d be like clearly this man

0:32:59.600,0:33:04.080
killed him but he was insane that’s what

0:33:02.960,0:33:07.360
i would go with

0:33:04.080,0:33:08.960
yeah but like despite all of this

0:33:07.360,0:33:10.640
lawyers like all of his lawyers

0:33:08.960,0:33:13.279
arguments the jury took

0:33:10.640,0:33:15.519
less than an hour to deliberate and

0:33:13.279,0:33:16.480
charles guteau was found guilty in the

0:33:15.519,0:33:19.919
murder of james

0:33:16.480,0:33:20.679
garfield surprise surprise and on june

0:33:19.919,0:33:23.919
30th

0:33:20.679,0:33:24.640
1882 nearly a year after he shot the

0:33:23.919,0:33:27.279
president

0:33:24.640,0:33:28.559
charles gutel was executed by hanging in

0:33:27.279,0:33:31.600
washington dc

0:33:28.559,0:33:34.720
oh okay death penalty yeah yeah

0:33:31.600,0:33:35.440
death penalty um yeah it was like by

0:33:34.720,0:33:38.640
hanging too

0:33:35.440,0:33:40.720
because i think the president william

0:33:38.640,0:33:42.000
mckinley’s assassin was executed like

0:33:40.720,0:33:45.200
through

0:33:42.000,0:33:48.559
electric care i want to say um

0:33:45.200,0:33:52.320
but yeah i’m like hanging it so so

0:33:48.559,0:33:55.919
ancient medieval-ish whoa that’s scary

0:33:52.320,0:33:59.279
but uh yeah so he was executed

0:33:55.919,0:34:00.000
um and so obviously president garfield’s

0:33:59.279,0:34:02.320
death

0:34:00.000,0:34:04.000
had a huge effect on the whole country

0:34:02.320,0:34:07.360
and in honor of

0:34:04.000,0:34:09.359
his death the 1883 pendleton civil

0:34:07.360,0:34:11.280
service act was passed

0:34:09.359,0:34:12.480
and yeah i think you’re familiar with

0:34:11.280,0:34:15.040
this but this

0:34:12.480,0:34:15.520
act mandated that government jobs had to

0:34:15.040,0:34:18.000
be

0:34:15.520,0:34:18.879
awarded on merit rather than political

0:34:18.000,0:34:20.480
affiliation

0:34:18.879,0:34:22.240
and it’s one of the most progressive

0:34:20.480,0:34:23.200
political reforms of the late 19th

0:34:22.240,0:34:26.320
century

0:34:23.200,0:34:29.119
aka the gilded age

0:34:26.320,0:34:30.000
so yay and then chester president

0:34:29.119,0:34:33.520
chester a

0:34:30.000,0:34:34.079
arthur became president um i tried to do

0:34:33.520,0:34:37.040
research

0:34:34.079,0:34:38.480
on him like not a lot happened he kind

0:34:37.040,0:34:42.800
of just

0:34:38.480,0:34:45.839
uh like tried to yeah he was focused on

0:34:42.800,0:34:49.359
civil service reform like

0:34:45.839,0:34:52.639
president garfield uh he only served

0:34:49.359,0:34:54.320
like three years though so yeah like he

0:34:52.639,0:34:56.639
served the remainder of president

0:34:54.320,0:34:59.280
garfield’s term and then he didn’t

0:34:56.639,0:35:00.640
run for election uh because he had like

0:34:59.280,0:35:03.680
poor health

0:35:00.640,0:35:04.880
so yeah that’s all i couldn’t find about

0:35:03.680,0:35:06.640
him but

0:35:04.880,0:35:08.480
yeah no that’s okay it’s i’ve never

0:35:06.640,0:35:10.400
heard of this president too sorry

0:35:08.480,0:35:12.160
but yeah it’s hard to make a lot of

0:35:10.400,0:35:14.560
change especially during that era

0:35:12.160,0:35:16.320
with all the really big money and the

0:35:14.560,0:35:19.520
government was like in debt

0:35:16.320,0:35:22.480
indebted and debt dude yeah

0:35:19.520,0:35:23.119
yeah indebted to all the wealthy robber

0:35:22.480,0:35:25.760
barons

0:35:23.119,0:35:27.520
so for sure for sure like that’s some

0:35:25.760,0:35:29.200
big shoes to fill so

0:35:27.520,0:35:31.280
that’s like a lot of work you have on

0:35:29.200,0:35:33.440
your plate um

0:35:31.280,0:35:34.560
and kind of spooky yeah like the

0:35:33.440,0:35:36.400
president just got

0:35:34.560,0:35:38.000
shot and now you want to continue his

0:35:36.400,0:35:40.480
policies

0:35:38.000,0:35:42.160
yeah yeah like he got killed for these

0:35:40.480,0:35:42.720
same policies so maybe that’s another

0:35:42.160,0:35:45.359
reason

0:35:42.720,0:35:46.800
why like president arthur was kind of

0:35:45.359,0:35:49.839
like oh i’m gonna

0:35:46.800,0:35:51.920
i’m gonna try to stay alive during this

0:35:49.839,0:35:54.960
term

0:35:51.920,0:35:55.520
that’s true um yeah and so like i

0:35:54.960,0:35:57.680
mentioned

0:35:55.520,0:35:59.359
earlier the train station where

0:35:57.680,0:36:01.280
president garfield was shot

0:35:59.359,0:36:02.960
no longer exists it was actually

0:36:01.280,0:36:06.240
demolished later

0:36:02.960,0:36:08.480
um but the location where

0:36:06.240,0:36:10.240
yeah the location of the train station

0:36:08.480,0:36:12.640
is somewhere between

0:36:10.240,0:36:14.160
the national gallery of art and the

0:36:12.640,0:36:15.520
federal trade commission

0:36:14.160,0:36:17.920
and this is actually like one of the

0:36:15.520,0:36:19.599
most busiest spots in dc

0:36:17.920,0:36:21.599
but most of the people don’t know the

0:36:19.599,0:36:24.960
history of behind the location

0:36:21.599,0:36:27.280
or the legacy of james garfield and it

0:36:24.960,0:36:29.920
wasn’t until 2018

0:36:27.280,0:36:32.000
that memorial plaques were finally put

0:36:29.920,0:36:35.760
up on the national mall in order to

0:36:32.000,0:36:38.560
memorial memorialize yeah memorialize

0:36:35.760,0:36:39.200
president garfield so it like took so

0:36:38.560,0:36:42.480
long

0:36:39.200,0:36:45.359
like this so very recently that

0:36:42.480,0:36:46.400
we’re finally like trying to recognize

0:36:45.359,0:36:49.359
this history

0:36:46.400,0:36:50.800
and yeah that’s the assassination of

0:36:49.359,0:36:53.520
president james garfield

0:36:50.800,0:36:55.680
i’m so sad i it took me so long to like

0:36:53.520,0:36:57.520
learn about him

0:36:55.680,0:36:59.520
and it’s really sad because i think he

0:36:57.520,0:37:00.400
could have had a lot of he had a lot of

0:36:59.520,0:37:03.599
potential

0:37:00.400,0:37:03.599
as president um

0:37:03.760,0:37:07.359
like how different the world would be if

0:37:05.920,0:37:10.160
he

0:37:07.359,0:37:10.800
wasn’t killed yeah if he had gotten his

0:37:10.160,0:37:13.359
chance

0:37:10.800,0:37:14.800
yeah yeah that’s sad but that’s yeah

0:37:13.359,0:37:16.800
thank you so much for

0:37:14.800,0:37:18.480
covering him there’s so many presidents

0:37:16.800,0:37:20.960
that i don’t really know what they did

0:37:18.480,0:37:23.520
and garfield sounds like an awesome

0:37:20.960,0:37:24.000
uh president and just person in general

0:37:23.520,0:37:27.200
so

0:37:24.000,0:37:27.839
i’m glad you covered this thanks yeah it

0:37:27.200,0:37:30.160
was

0:37:27.839,0:37:31.359
i mean it’s a wild story yeah i wanted

0:37:30.160,0:37:33.760
to end

0:37:31.359,0:37:35.599
see this season our first season with an

0:37:33.760,0:37:38.000
assassination also

0:37:35.599,0:37:39.599
so come full circle it’s really cool i

0:37:38.000,0:37:40.800
like that we like ended in on that it’s

0:37:39.599,0:37:43.520
really good

0:37:40.800,0:37:44.640
and just like a reminder to everyone for

0:37:43.520,0:37:45.760
there have been four

0:37:44.640,0:37:48.400
four presidents who have been

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assassinated president abraham lincoln

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uh james garfield william mckinley and

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john f kennedy so

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President McKinley Was Assassinated?

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Nat covers the assassination of President William McKinley. 

Show Notes

Nat covers the assassination of President William McKinley. 

Sources:

https://www.history.com/news/the-assassination-of-president-william-mckinley

https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/presidents/william-mckinley

https://www.history.com/news/mckinley-assassination-created-the-secret-service

https://www.history.com/news/how-presidential-assassinations-changed-u-s-politics

Transcript

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hello everyone and welcome to the how

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did we not know that podcast I’m one of

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your hosts my name is Jac I’m NAT and

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this is gonna be our first episode we’re

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super excited to start ok ok not take it

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away tell us what you’re talking about

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today right so today’s episode I’m going

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to be covering the McKinley

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assassination president William McKinley

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alright ok I should not look in your

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notes because then I never I was like

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yeah ok I can see he’s the Tony further

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go ahead tell me about him so before we

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get into the whole assassination I gotta

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talk about how wait wait wait he was

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killer spoiler um unfortunately

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President McKinley dies at the end

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yeah if for those of you who didn’t know

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uh President William McKinley was

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assassinated

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so McKinley it was our 25th president he

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assumed office in 1897 and so at the

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time of his assassination he was in his

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second term of office and he was pretty

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well liked by the public he was a member

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of the Republican Party and so he had

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like raised protective tariffs to

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promote American industry he like was he

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was a president who led us into the

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spanish-american war and he was actually

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one of like the most popular chief

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executives like at the time and then

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additionally like he really liked

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meeting with the American people like he

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took every opportunity he could to meet

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American citizens and yeah so Q overall

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he was a pretty good dude like he had a

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good rip so we’re gonna flash pass

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forward yeah

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all right to the pan-american exposition

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so there we a question on the

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spanish-american war yeah I also like

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know ya know what that was about how did

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we not notice Oh topic because yeah I

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was thinking about that I was like okay

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I feel like

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yeah or spoiler alert for that we also

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win the spanish-american war I assumed I

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assume because that’s why we haven’t

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heard about it but yeah so so yeah we

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have this Pan American Expo it was like

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a seventh month long World’s Fair and it

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was called in Buffalo New York in 1901

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and yeah so it’s like a seventh month

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falling thing which I thought it was

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like really crazy for like one event to

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be held seven months long but like if

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they had like at these world Fair’s I

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had like zoos and like whole like

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feeders and like grounds being built for

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it so it’s like a huge deal um I also

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like actually no that’s a lie I like so

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I’m from Chicago and we always learn

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about like the Chicago World’s Fair and

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like it’s always like a big deal but I

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thought there’s only one World Fair but

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apparently there’s like a bunch of them

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anyway McKinley attends its World Fair

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Expo for two days in September so he

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gets out on September 5th and like he

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gives a speech to this crowd of 116,000

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people is huge and then later that night

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like there’s a huge fireworks displays

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for him and it features I quote a burst

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of pyrotechnics that spelled out the

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words welcome President McKinley chief

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of our nation and our Empire

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uncle Apple I that’s so much in like

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1900 I feel like I was expensive I was

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thinking too and I was like how did they

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like I don’t know much about like

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fireworks and pyrotechnics but like that

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must have been like a huge or you yeah I

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don’t think I ever see words out of

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fireworks yeah yeah I don’t know the

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specifics of it I gotta like looking but

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anyway like you could tell that people

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are so stoked for him to be there and

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then so September 6 so the next day I

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McKinley President McKinley he’s having

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this basically like a meet and greet

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reception at the tempo Music Theatre um

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and so like all these people can come

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and like literally shake hands with the

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president so because of this like it

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does not sound very safe and so actually

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like before this event

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McKinley staff members really super

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worried about his safety because just

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like there are so many people coming in

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like they don’t I don’t think I really

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had like a screening process for the

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people like obviously you don’t have

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like metal detectors or anything so

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they’re just coming up and like shaking

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his hand

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so McKinley’s personal secretary had

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actually tried to cancel this

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meet-and-greet twice but President

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McKinley insisted that he attended it

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because like he just loved meeting the

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American people face to face and like

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shaking hands with everyone um but this

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staff had also added extra police and

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soldiers on top of his normal like

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Secret Service detail so to set the

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scene it’s a hot late summer heat day in

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Buffalo New York there’s a huge line of

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people waiting for this reception

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standing outside the temple music

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theater and at the front of the sign is

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a man named Leon Chou gosh which I hope

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I’m pronouncing it right I like licked

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it up yeah I like car interior orden is

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that yeah so he’s actually a Polish

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immigrant um so yeah I believe it’s

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France ciao gosh we’re gonna call him

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Leon from now on okay guys um me sad is

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this a guy who kills him is this sounds

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like a murderer yeah yeah Leon’s not

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he’s not a good guy so let me tell you a

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little bit more about Leon so he’s 28

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years old he’s really young he’s also a

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self-proclaimed anarchist he’s described

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by others as shy and brooding I’m not

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sure who said that but yeah and so he’s

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a Polish immigrant and he was a former

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former steel worker later hit though he

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was unemployed so that kind that kind of

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caused him like grievances um about the

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whole government and so Leon had

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actually arrived in Buffalo a few days

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prior to the September 6 meet-and-greet

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and there he bought a 32 caliber Iver

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Johnson revolver and he was actually

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stalking President McKinley for like a

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few days

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so actually he had tried to shoot

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President McKinley twice before

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September 6 the first time was when

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McKinley it had arrived at the train

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station so if you had just gotten there

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and he was like all ready to go but it

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kind of fell through and then also

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during that September 5th speech I

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mentioned with a huge crowd of people

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Leon had also attended and he was like

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planning on shooting the president thing

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but he did not how did it through like

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it was he did he like fire shots or he

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just decided not to like no shots being

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fired I guess he just decided not to I

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don’t know the specifics maybe you like

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there wasn’t like a clear getaway or

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maybe he didn’t have like the clear shot

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but yeah specifics but either way like

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it fell through but he was pretty

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determined um so here we have Leon he’s

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waiting in line he has a gun wrapped in

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his handkerchief and it’s hidden in his

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jacket pocket and then at 4:07 p.m. Leon

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approaches President McKinley McKinley

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goes to extend his hand for a handshake

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and then Leon fought fires twice point

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Lake at President McKinley stomach what

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is Point Blank I mean it’s like yeah

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isn’t it just like when you’re like

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directly in front of someone or like you

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have like a good shot bro I don’t know I

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don’t know check it I feel like I hear

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that word all the time I should probably

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know it yeah I think he not know that

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let me look at him right now I feel like

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I feel like you just read that right

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like I feel like they said that and

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you’re like yeah they shot him

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point-blank no oh yeah it’s like

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touching you yeah what do you like on

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your okay it’s pretty close yeah also

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like a disclaimer like pretty much all

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my sources are like history calm so it’s

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a great website um so the New York Times

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I’m in their report of his assassination

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so here’s a quote from it they say there

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was an instant of almost complete

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silence

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the hush that follows a clap of thunder

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the president stood Stockstill a look of

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hesitancy almost of bewilderment on his

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face then he retreated a step while a

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pillar began to steal over his features

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the multitude seemed only partially

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aware that something serious had

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happened end quote

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so it was like super dramatic like

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there’s like the whole room is just like

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those completely silent

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um but like everyone there’s like kind

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of confused as to like what happened so

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in this moment like right after McKinley

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a shot oh so after like Leon fires the

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first two times a man named James aka

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Big Jim Parker who was a tall

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african-american man who had been

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waiting in line behind Leon he comes in

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and punches Leon and preventing him from

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firing a third time so yeah it was like

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crazy and then so after James punches

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Leon then like obviously all the

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soldiers and the Secret Service and

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other police members like swarm in on

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Leon and like kind of attack him and

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they’re kind of like beating him up and

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like they only stop until the only stop

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when President McKinley like orders them

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they’re like hey like even though he’s

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just been shot twice he’s like hey he’s

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still able to be like stop hi so he’s

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like he’s like oh like stopping him up

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and then they like remove him from the

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room until after McKinley a shot he is

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taken to the expose hospital where

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unfortunately the only doctor on call is

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a gynecologist um so the first bullet

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had actually like ricocheted off of

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President McKinley suit button and it so

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like it wasn’t which that’s so lucky

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buttons made yeah um so yeah the first

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one I had only caused minor damage

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however the second bullet by an that

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designers like I have save the president

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well it strikes his abdomen and then it

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passes clean through his stomach

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Wow it’s a pretty fatal wound obviously

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but um the doctor was able to suture his

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stomach wound and proven stopped the

0:11:13.769,0:11:16.620
bleeding

0:11:14.160,0:11:18.929
however he couldn’t locate the bullet so

0:11:16.620,0:11:21.059
like the bullet is still in there and

0:11:18.929,0:11:22.790
like you said all like sewed up and

0:11:21.059,0:11:25.350
everything Wow

0:11:22.790,0:11:27.540
however so the few days following a

0:11:25.350,0:11:29.840
shooting McKinley seems to be getting

0:11:27.540,0:11:32.330
better on the newspapers our report

0:11:29.840,0:11:33.500
that he’s awake and he’s alert and he’s

0:11:32.330,0:11:34.940
reading the newspaper and like

0:11:33.500,0:11:36.410
everyone’s like oh like actually he’s

0:11:34.940,0:11:38.780
gonna be fine like don’t worry about it

0:11:36.410,0:11:40.870
and people were so confident that he was

0:11:38.780,0:11:43.640
going to survive that

0:11:40.870,0:11:46.220
McKinley vice president at the time do

0:11:43.640,0:11:50.840
you know his vice president is know if

0:11:46.220,0:11:55.190
it’s Theodore Roosevelt ha what how did

0:11:50.840,0:11:57.320
I not know that oh boy okay I feel

0:11:55.190,0:11:59.870
really dumb actually Teddy is like one

0:11:57.320,0:12:02.240
of my favorite presidents he had no idea

0:11:59.870,0:12:05.240
that like he that’s how he came into

0:12:02.240,0:12:08.270
office right he was deeply yeah he just

0:12:05.240,0:12:09.920
seems a real toilet but yeah so I was

0:12:08.270,0:12:21.500
reading I was like oh my god that’s a

0:12:09.920,0:12:24.890
guy from um Night at the Museum so yeah

0:12:21.500,0:12:26.750
so uh Vice President Roosevelt he went

0:12:24.890,0:12:28.580
on a camping trip in the Adirondacks cuz

0:12:26.750,0:12:32.600
he was like nah he’s gonna be fine like

0:12:28.580,0:12:34.490
Wow Oh Teddy Teddy went on a camping

0:12:32.600,0:12:36.490
trip so they’re like obviously like

0:12:34.490,0:12:41.540
they’re like not like super worried um

0:12:36.490,0:12:44.180
however by September 13th so he was so

0:12:41.540,0:12:47.410
McKinley was shot September 6 right yeah

0:12:44.180,0:12:50.180
her 13th his condition had worsened

0:12:47.410,0:12:51.920
significantly he had gangrene on the

0:12:50.180,0:12:53.660
walls of his stomach he had a severe

0:12:51.920,0:12:56.750
case of blood poisoning and he was

0:12:53.660,0:12:58.400
losing consciousness and on September

0:12:56.750,0:13:00.800
14th at 2:15 a.m.

0:12:58.400,0:13:03.770
President McKinley passes away with his

0:13:00.800,0:13:07.040
wife Ida by his side and he was 58 years

0:13:03.770,0:13:09.890
old at the time of his death that might

0:13:07.040,0:13:12.350
be why like you don’t hear about it as

0:13:09.890,0:13:14.660
an assassination cuz like he survived

0:13:12.350,0:13:16.850
the shot which I think I’m surprised he

0:13:14.660,0:13:20.270
didn’t bleed out and it was like the

0:13:16.850,0:13:22.130
infection later that killed him and like

0:13:20.270,0:13:23.870
that’s why I was super confused when I

0:13:22.130,0:13:26.210
was originally doing my research because

0:13:23.870,0:13:27.680
like I googled like assassination and I

0:13:26.210,0:13:30.770
kept getting two dates it was like

0:13:27.680,0:13:32.540
September 6 and then September 14th and

0:13:30.770,0:13:34.280
I was like which one is the right date

0:13:32.540,0:13:37.910
was it because he’s not on but he

0:13:34.280,0:13:41.330
doesn’t actually die until the 14th so

0:13:37.910,0:13:43.020
yeah so another reason why I don’t I

0:13:41.330,0:13:47.420
remember the

0:13:43.020,0:13:50.400
this assassination story is because like

0:13:47.420,0:13:52.230
his successor is Theodore Roosevelt and

0:13:50.400,0:13:53.850
like everyone talks about him and so I

0:13:52.230,0:13:59.490
feel like kind of McKinley kind of got

0:13:53.850,0:14:02.130
overshadowed ah yeah is that wait Teddy

0:13:59.490,0:14:03.900
became president because McKinley was

0:14:02.130,0:14:05.880
assassinated

0:14:03.900,0:14:08.970
I’m pretty sure he gets elected again

0:14:05.880,0:14:16.860
like Oh like he gets another term okay

0:14:08.970,0:14:20.730
what is okay yeah I think Teddy did such

0:14:16.860,0:14:27.420
a good job yeah that remembers Theodore

0:14:20.730,0:14:30.480
Roosevelt but like is Teddy on the who’s

0:14:27.420,0:14:33.120
on Mount Rushmore Oh God

0:14:30.480,0:14:36.210
like Georgia so he thinks you don’t know

0:14:33.120,0:14:39.990
when I look at it yeah that’s a great

0:14:36.210,0:14:42.660
question yeah it’s Abraham yeah I think

0:14:39.990,0:14:45.420
Teddy’s on plan is he really do you have

0:14:42.660,0:14:47.970
a list yeah he literally is okay yeah

0:14:45.420,0:14:49.530
okay if you died doesn’t matter how

0:14:47.970,0:14:51.690
great you are like you didn’t get put on

0:14:49.530,0:14:54.390
Mount Rushmore and so like it makes

0:14:51.690,0:14:56.900
sense you were overshadowed you didn’t

0:14:54.390,0:14:58.890
make it the Mount Rushmore nobody yeah

0:14:56.900,0:15:01.110
no one’s gonna remember you

0:14:58.890,0:15:03.720
yeah it’s George Washington Thomas

0:15:01.110,0:15:07.970
Jefferson Teddy Roosevelt and Abraham

0:15:03.720,0:15:10.350
was Thomas Jefferson President

0:15:07.970,0:15:14.100
yes and what guess he was because in

0:15:10.350,0:15:17.220
Hamilton it’s like Aaron burrs versus

0:15:14.100,0:15:19.560
Thomas Jefferson and then Hamilton goes

0:15:17.220,0:15:22.110
Jefferson has my vote and then that’s

0:15:19.560,0:15:24.630
why Aaron birch shoots Alexander

0:15:22.110,0:15:26.640
Hamilton because like in a rage the

0:15:24.630,0:15:28.530
angle something so maybe that’s why I

0:15:26.640,0:15:30.660
know absolutely nothing about u.s.

0:15:28.530,0:15:33.590
history no it’s okay Hamilton helped a

0:15:30.660,0:15:36.330
lot like a lot a lot a lot with

0:15:33.590,0:15:38.100
understanding the founding fathers yeah

0:15:36.330,0:15:40.830
I need to just listen to the soundtrack

0:15:38.100,0:15:42.330
and just memorize all the lines yeah

0:15:40.830,0:15:44.100
that would help that’s because they

0:15:42.330,0:15:47.340
literally and they say the dates to

0:15:44.100,0:15:49.950
they’ll be like 1789 and then they’ll go

0:15:47.340,0:15:51.450
it’s really educational that’s my

0:15:49.950,0:15:56.010
homework for tonight is just memorize

0:15:51.450,0:15:57.870
the whole oh this is this is actually

0:15:56.010,0:16:03.930
I’ve never it’s in South Dakota

0:15:57.870,0:16:06.470
yeah yeah yeah that’s right

0:16:03.930,0:16:06.470
okay

0:16:10.700,0:16:19.740
speaking of South Dakota North King this

0:16:13.530,0:16:22.500
is normally Leon sentencing okay Leon

0:16:19.740,0:16:24.089
his trial begins September 23rd and

0:16:22.500,0:16:28.130
during this trial

0:16:24.089,0:16:30.720
um Leon says that his motive and

0:16:28.130,0:16:32.910
shooting the president was to contribute

0:16:30.720,0:16:36.030
to the anarchist cause and so I have two

0:16:32.910,0:16:38.460
quotes from Leon so the first one is I

0:16:36.030,0:16:39.930
don’t believe in the Republican form of

0:16:38.460,0:16:42.120
government and I don’t believe we should

0:16:39.930,0:16:44.160
have any rulers it is right to kill them

0:16:42.120,0:16:46.050
and quote and then they got a second

0:16:44.160,0:16:47.880
quote from him it says it was in my

0:16:46.050,0:16:49.440
heart there was no escape for me all

0:16:47.880,0:16:51.540
those people seemed bowing to the great

0:16:49.440,0:16:56.120
ruler I made up my mind to kill that

0:16:51.540,0:17:00.270
ruler and quote so yeah he was not happy

0:16:56.120,0:17:03.300
yeah and so he actually acted alone in

0:17:00.270,0:17:06.270
this assassination and there’s also

0:17:03.300,0:17:08.550
quite a lot of evidence saying that he

0:17:06.270,0:17:11.939
was more mentally ill rather than

0:17:08.550,0:17:15.270
politically motivated so that’s another

0:17:11.939,0:17:18.150
issue and then three days after his

0:17:15.270,0:17:21.150
trial begins Leon is found guilty and

0:17:18.150,0:17:23.850
sentenced to death and so on October 29

0:17:21.150,0:17:26.790
19:01 man is executed by electric chair

0:17:23.850,0:17:29.550
at new york’s auburn prison and right

0:17:26.790,0:17:31.350
before his death leon is quoted to say i

0:17:29.550,0:17:33.690
killed the president for the good of the

0:17:31.350,0:17:37.560
laboring people the good people i am not

0:17:33.690,0:17:40.580
sorry for my crimes and quote so i what

0:17:37.560,0:17:44.100
was the data on that what day October

0:17:40.580,0:17:47.180
1901 sits the same year Wow okay on

0:17:44.100,0:17:51.360
after he shoots the president and then

0:17:47.180,0:17:53.490
which like I feel well obviously like

0:17:51.360,0:17:55.110
this is different than other like death

0:17:53.490,0:17:56.850
row cases but I feel like people who are

0:17:55.110,0:17:58.590
put on like sentence to death like it

0:17:56.850,0:18:00.360
normally takes like years for it to

0:17:58.590,0:18:02.850
actually be processed but also this was

0:18:00.360,0:18:05.250
in like the it was 1901 so maybe just

0:18:02.850,0:18:08.130
the judicial system was a bit prison

0:18:05.250,0:18:10.860
system was a bit different but yeah um

0:18:08.130,0:18:13.290
and they actually I found a video on

0:18:10.860,0:18:15.630
YouTube I forgot who I’d filmed it at

0:18:13.290,0:18:18.140
the time but like some film company had

0:18:15.630,0:18:21.210
like produced a reenactment of his like

0:18:18.140,0:18:22.860
execution like in the electric chair and

0:18:21.210,0:18:24.780
I didn’t watch it but like obviously

0:18:22.860,0:18:26.820
it’s like old time you film and it’s

0:18:24.780,0:18:31.170
like someone in the chair I’m like okay

0:18:26.820,0:18:33.690
oh man it’s like so obviously McKinley

0:18:31.170,0:18:35.790
President McKinley’s assassination shook

0:18:33.690,0:18:39.090
the whole entire country and like had so

0:18:35.790,0:18:42.540
many impacts on the whole country and so

0:18:39.090,0:18:46.980
in like specifically to the anarchist

0:18:42.540,0:18:48.630
movement um Leon so Leon was part of the

0:18:46.980,0:18:49.260
anarchist movement even though he acted

0:18:48.630,0:18:51.240
alone

0:18:49.260,0:18:53.670
the assassination led to multiple

0:18:51.240,0:18:57.060
arrests of other political radicals on

0:18:53.670,0:19:00.060
one of these is a woman by the name of

0:18:57.060,0:19:03.540
Emma Goldman who was an anarchist who

0:19:00.060,0:19:06.090
speeches Leon had cited frequently and

0:19:03.540,0:19:09.030
so a lot of people are arrested in the

0:19:06.090,0:19:11.310
name of like stopping preventing like

0:19:09.030,0:19:15.540
the future growth of the anarchist

0:19:11.310,0:19:17.880
movement and this detail I really didn’t

0:19:15.540,0:19:20.520
know a lot about but McKinley’s

0:19:17.880,0:19:23.610
assassination had a huge impact on the

0:19:20.520,0:19:26.940
Secret Service so before President

0:19:23.610,0:19:29.310
McKinley’s assassination um pretty for

0:19:26.940,0:19:31.200
the president was SuperDuper chill so

0:19:29.310,0:19:34.020
the Secret Service was actually so it’s

0:19:31.200,0:19:34.970
created in 1865 as a branch of the

0:19:34.020,0:19:37.520
Treasury Department

0:19:34.970,0:19:40.429
and it was created in order to

0:19:37.520,0:19:44.299
investigate counterfeit currency and it

0:19:40.429,0:19:47.240
wasn’t until 1894 when President Grover

0:19:44.299,0:19:48.950
Cleveland um started having the agents

0:19:47.240,0:19:52.880
like work as a security detail on a

0:19:48.950,0:19:54.980
part-time basis however President

0:19:52.880,0:19:58.280
McKinley was the third president to be

0:19:54.980,0:20:00.470
assassinated over 36 year period so this

0:19:58.280,0:20:06.169
is including Lincoln Abraham Lincoln and

0:20:00.470,0:20:10.059
then James Garfield Garfield was shot

0:20:06.169,0:20:12.380
white it was also shot and assassinated

0:20:10.059,0:20:14.990
maybe that’s another future episode

0:20:12.380,0:20:16.760
Alissa’s yeah we should just yeah yeah I

0:20:14.990,0:20:20.059
oughta they know nothing about James

0:20:16.760,0:20:23.059
Garfield like yeah yeah I have no idea

0:20:20.059,0:20:25.010
um so yeah so he was unfortunately

0:20:23.059,0:20:26.659
assassinated as well and then so there

0:20:25.010,0:20:28.730
are four presidents in total who have

0:20:26.659,0:20:33.320
been assassinated so Lincoln Garfield

0:20:28.730,0:20:35.900
McKinley and then John F Kennedy um Wow

0:20:33.320,0:20:39.650
I in my head I was I you know you always

0:20:35.900,0:20:44.450
know like weekend JFK but I think it was

0:20:39.650,0:20:46.700
the first one yeah yeah um so I guess

0:20:44.450,0:20:53.299
yeah I’m not sure why the other two guys

0:20:46.700,0:20:59.900
kind of I think hmm I don’t know I feel

0:20:53.299,0:21:02.780
like who’s your favorite president yeah

0:20:59.900,0:21:05.330
I feel like my uh I think it’s Lincoln

0:21:02.780,0:21:07.520
two for me and like I asked my dad this

0:21:05.330,0:21:09.799
and he was like who else the greatest

0:21:07.520,0:21:12.650
president who ever lived Abraham Lincoln

0:21:09.799,0:21:13.970
and honestly like the more we study

0:21:12.650,0:21:16.789
about history I know we’re just getting

0:21:13.970,0:21:20.630
into it but like Abraham Lincoln did a

0:21:16.789,0:21:22.909
lot a lot a lot a lot uh and like I

0:21:20.630,0:21:24.289
think yeah you know like in school like

0:21:22.909,0:21:25.690
we always learned about Lincoln I was

0:21:24.289,0:21:27.770
like oh my gosh why are you like

0:21:25.690,0:21:29.360
focusing on him so much but then you

0:21:27.770,0:21:31.010
wish you could hurt other presidents

0:21:29.360,0:21:34.640
like he changed the country like so much

0:21:31.010,0:21:36.770
yeah and he led through the Civil War

0:21:34.640,0:21:39.140
which I didn’t understand this too I

0:21:36.770,0:21:43.429
started to look at coronavirus stats for

0:21:39.140,0:21:45.950
like deaths and the Civil War was like

0:21:43.429,0:21:48.320
we lost I think the most Americans in

0:21:45.950,0:21:49.970
the Civil War there’s like Vietnam War

0:21:48.320,0:21:51.380
I think we’re coronavirus cases are like

0:21:49.970,0:21:53.299
more than the people the Americans who

0:21:51.380,0:21:55.399
have died in the Vietnam War and then

0:21:53.299,0:21:57.019
there’s like the next ones like one of

0:21:55.399,0:22:01.570
the world wars I think and then the most

0:21:57.019,0:22:04.340
I’m pretty sure is the Civil War so

0:22:01.570,0:22:06.409
today like we have a lot of people dying

0:22:04.340,0:22:08.899
and remember the population was not as

0:22:06.409,0:22:11.870
big when the Civil War is going on so if

0:22:08.899,0:22:14.240
that many people died and Abraham

0:22:11.870,0:22:16.789
Lincoln was like we are having this like

0:22:14.240,0:22:20.149
no we cannot have like slavery needs to

0:22:16.789,0:22:22.159
end like this is like he had to go

0:22:20.149,0:22:23.960
through so much to like the country

0:22:22.159,0:22:26.360
through that I can’t even imagine I

0:22:23.960,0:22:28.250
don’t think any me too and he like did

0:22:26.360,0:22:28.850
that he did what he believed like was

0:22:28.250,0:22:31.840
right

0:22:28.850,0:22:36.470
despite it’s a half of the country like

0:22:31.840,0:22:38.750
going to war yeah it’s insane and he was

0:22:36.470,0:22:40.370
really inspiring hey we would also love

0:22:38.750,0:22:41.690
Lincoln although I think he was like

0:22:40.370,0:22:43.009
actually born in like Maryland or

0:22:41.690,0:22:44.899
something but like he grew up in

0:22:43.009,0:22:49.519
Illinois I don’t know we have like a

0:22:44.899,0:22:54.110
bunch of stuff yeah again um yeah I know

0:22:49.519,0:22:56.960
I’m he’s good I’m a big fan President

0:22:54.110,0:22:59.139
McKinley because okay I think McKinley’s

0:22:56.960,0:23:06.049
from Ohio I’m pretty sure there’s like a

0:22:59.139,0:23:07.789
yeah I think um ya know Canton Ohio I’m

0:23:06.049,0:23:10.700
pretty sure cuz it was a field trip when

0:23:07.789,0:23:12.529
I was in like middle school as we went

0:23:10.700,0:23:15.379
to his memorial and I was like oh we had

0:23:12.529,0:23:18.649
a president but I had no idea like his

0:23:15.379,0:23:20.090
significance but he did I feel like

0:23:18.649,0:23:21.399
there’s been a lot of presidents from

0:23:20.090,0:23:25.100
Ohio

0:23:21.399,0:23:29.629
there are astronauts a lot of presidents

0:23:25.100,0:23:31.190
John Glenn um yeah so yeah so we should

0:23:29.629,0:23:34.490
okay we should definitely remember

0:23:31.190,0:23:36.590
McKinley um because he also like his

0:23:34.490,0:23:39.320
assassination obviously had this huge

0:23:36.590,0:23:40.580
impact on creating like the modern what

0:23:39.320,0:23:43.879
we know is like the modern Secret

0:23:40.580,0:23:46.759
Service so a little bit more about that

0:23:43.879,0:23:49.360
so at the time the US was just starting

0:23:46.759,0:23:51.379
to emerge as an imperial power and

0:23:49.360,0:23:53.059
national leaders all around the world

0:23:51.379,0:23:55.940
we’re starting to become more concerned

0:23:53.059,0:23:58.429
about threats from not only inside their

0:23:55.940,0:24:00.289
own country but outside as well so this

0:23:58.429,0:24:01.730
is when like you know like foreigners

0:24:00.289,0:24:04.970
like

0:24:01.730,0:24:07.370
before this is not sure but like I guess

0:24:04.970,0:24:08.600
in terms of like American like American

0:24:07.370,0:24:11.990
president seems like maybe they weren’t

0:24:08.600,0:24:14.230
as concerned about like threats from

0:24:11.990,0:24:18.230
foreign nationals so I guess after

0:24:14.230,0:24:20.900
McKinley because even though Leon was an

0:24:18.230,0:24:22.760
American citizen like he was he had a

0:24:20.900,0:24:24.050
foreign sounding sounding name and he

0:24:22.760,0:24:25.880
had immigrated from Poland so like

0:24:24.050,0:24:28.370
people started to become really worried

0:24:25.880,0:24:31.910
about threats from outside of the US um

0:24:28.370,0:24:34.250
and then also anarchy at this time was a

0:24:31.910,0:24:37.160
huge threat or at least was perceived to

0:24:34.250,0:24:38.750
be as a huge threat um Theodore

0:24:37.160,0:24:41.150
Roosevelt was actually quoted to say

0:24:38.750,0:24:43.550
when compared with the suppression of

0:24:41.150,0:24:46.670
Anarchy every other question sinks into

0:24:43.550,0:24:48.050
insignificance unquote so like at the

0:24:46.670,0:24:49.570
time like everyone was really freaking

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out about anarchists and like

0:24:49.570,0:24:54.070
overthrowing the country so after

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President McKinley’s assassination

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Congress assigned full protection of

0:24:56.600,0:25:01.070
acting presidents and the Secret Service

0:24:59.150,0:25:04.060
became the president’s permanent and

0:25:01.070,0:25:06.620
dedicated security detail so that’s why

0:25:04.060,0:25:08.960
we have the Secret Service today and

0:25:06.620,0:25:10.460
that’s why it looks like that and I’m

0:25:08.960,0:25:12.470
okay great question

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so Anarchy is that just a belief that

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there shouldn’t be like essential there

0:25:15.350,0:25:19.220
should be a government okay they just

0:25:17.930,0:25:21.470
want no government they want it to be

0:25:19.220,0:25:25.250
like you just do whatever you want just

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so no laws yeah literally like no laws

0:25:25.250,0:25:30.080
no currency no government just okay

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interesting

0:25:30.080,0:25:33.950
yeah so fact check cuz we said he’s from

0:25:33.260,0:25:35.540
Canton

0:25:33.950,0:25:38.120
yeah William McKinley is actually I just

0:25:35.540,0:25:44.360
checked it he’s from Niles Ohio but his

0:25:38.120,0:25:46.370
memorial is in Canton 99% sure yeah okay

0:25:44.360,0:25:50.210
also I was reading about like so he was

0:25:46.370,0:25:52.070
like at first buried in Ohio I want to

0:25:50.210,0:25:53.780
say probably Canton but he was buried in

0:25:52.070,0:25:56.060
Ohio and then like later they had like

0:25:53.780,0:26:00.080
moved his remains I think it’s like DC

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like or somewhere but yeah there’s a

0:26:00.080,0:26:08.540
Morial memorial yeah in Canton and yeah

0:26:03.650,0:26:11.060
and so um after President McKinley’s

0:26:08.540,0:26:12.780
death Vice President Theodore Roosevelt

0:26:11.060,0:26:18.330
assumes the role

0:26:12.780,0:26:21.180
president and good she comes like there

0:26:18.330,0:26:23.250
well not I feel bad cuz like we did talk

0:26:21.180,0:26:24.720
about like you’re gonna be my greatest

0:26:23.250,0:26:27.060
resident were in literally trying to

0:26:24.720,0:26:28.230
push something like William McKinley I’m

0:26:27.060,0:26:37.890
like you know he’s awesome

0:26:28.230,0:26:40.470
Abraham Lincoln’s Lincoln so much and

0:26:37.890,0:26:43.860
like Teddy was so great he’s omnipresent

0:26:40.470,0:26:47.480
we’re like oh my gosh like he was a

0:26:43.860,0:26:54.710
Night at the Museum I didn’t see him

0:26:47.480,0:26:58.110
that’s true yeah Teddy date Sacagawea in

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which which is not true that did not

0:26:58.110,0:27:02.580
happen

0:26:58.650,0:27:05.660
I always thought like she was so isn’t

0:27:02.580,0:27:05.660
she like a lot younger

0:27:10.220,0:27:15.210
well they’re also supposed to be wax

0:27:12.420,0:27:18.930
figurines so I guess they’re not like

0:27:15.210,0:27:21.450
yeah they don’t have an age yes yeah

0:27:18.930,0:27:23.810
yeah that was really good thank you for

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sharing that