The Partition of Ireland

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Ireland: the home of gorgeous coastal mountains and grassy plains. Yet, despite the beauty and charm, the island of Ireland has a long history of conflict. So much so, that the island is split into two *not physically of course*. In our Season 2, World History premiere, Jac takes us through the conflict between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland .

Sources:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/a-history-of-ireland-for-outsiders-from-henry-viii-to-the-troubles-1.3816898

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Transcript

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hello everybody and welcome back to

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another episode of how did we not know

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that

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i’m Nat i’m jack and we’re back

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with season two

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so exciting so exciting um yeah it’s

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season two this season we’re going to be

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talking

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about world history so we have a lot of

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fun and exciting topics coming your way

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so

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today jack i i actually don’t know what

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you’re going to talk about

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today i’m going to talk about ireland

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for our irish viewers who are so

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dedicated we see you

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wow shout out to our irish viewers

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yeah so actually i’m gonna talk about

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let’s just get right into it happy

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season two

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missed you guys very excited so

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nat did you know that ireland is

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actually split

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isn’t it like northern southern ireland

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but i honestly like i hear about

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like issues going on with north north

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and south ireland today but i don’t know

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the history behind it yeah me neither

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i never knew i yeah i knew that um

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actually no i really didn’t know much i

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thought i heard that like ireland was

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part of the uk

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and it wasn’t part of the uk and then i

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wasn’t sure

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what was going on there and so actually

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ireland like is an island like the

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actual

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just like the name of the island is

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called ireland

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and that’s an island for our viewers who

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are like

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not familiar of the location of ireland

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it’s an island that’s off

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western europe and it’s in the atlantic

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sea so it’s like

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north west from europe

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europe it’s like the northwest section

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it’s not in like

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yeah is it closest to england like is it

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like right off the coast or is it yeah

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it’s like right off the coast of england

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okay and um yeah so

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that island is split into two parts with

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the south being called

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ireland like what we we formally know is

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ireland or the republic of ireland

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and then the north is northern ireland

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and it’s actually part of the uk

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okay yeah so then records of like

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the island of ireland date back to

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forever

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like ten 000 a.d prehistoric times

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there’s records

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and then they’re like it’s very well

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recorded

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everything that happened in ireland so

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we’re actually going to start in 500 bc

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with the arrival of celts

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so around 500 bc

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people immigrated to ireland and that

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group of people

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were called celtic people was like

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celtic heritage

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and that was that later became known

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as the dominant irish ethnic group

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okay and so the religion uh

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well actually do you know why i like

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ireland split can you take a guess

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isn’t it like one half of it they’re

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protestants and then the other half is

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like catholic

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yeah literally so it’s a it’s a witch

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yeah okay we’ll talk about it it’s

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really interesting um

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but yeah i know basically it’s like a

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religious

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difference and

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we’re gonna go back but the celts that

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like um settled ireland

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had religious beliefs that were not the

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same as the main world and so

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any time that you have differing like

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beliefs at least back then

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from like the dominant religions you’re

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called

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pagan so that religion that celtics

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practiced was called paganism

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and it wasn’t until the 5th century so

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that’s 400 bc

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when a 16 year old boy from roman

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britain

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was kidnapped and roman britain is not

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like england it’s like another i can’t

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really describe it that well but it’s

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he’s kidnapped from

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like a different area the 16 year old

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boy

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this is just like a fun fact and he um

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he’s taken to ireland as a slave

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and then he escapes ireland and

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he goes and like studies catholicism so

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the

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okay the major religion at the time is

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catholicism

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at least like that form of christianity

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there’s like judaism

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i know you’re not religious so i’m

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trying to break it down

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yeah so like basically okay rough

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religious

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like religion history lesson there’s

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like judaism

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and judaism is like jewish and then

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jesus who is i don’t know if anyone’s

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heard of jesus christ

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he’s like the head of christianity but

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jesus was originally a jew so he studied

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he practiced judaism and then when jesus

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um was he became known as the son of

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god in the eyes of christians and he

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died

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for our sins and everything and so jesus

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then like if you believe that jesus is

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like the coming of christ then that is

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christianity so you believe in jesus

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christ you believe in

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like god and everything does that make

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sense i feel like i need to bring a

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whiteboard out here and like sketch it

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out

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like draw lines so like the difference

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like the main difference between

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judaism and christianity is that

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christians believe that jesus is the son

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of god

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but judaism doesn’t necessarily

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believe that he’s the son of god yeah

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they don’t they believe he’s like a guy

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um but like not that he was like the

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coming of christ or anything

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okay um i hope that’s right i’m not fact

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check myself

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but um yeah so anyway so

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jesus forms this branch it’s

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christianity and like

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the biggest first branch of christianity

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is actually catholicism

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so that’s the roman catholic faith and

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that was the only form of christianity

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back then so you’re

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like it’s catholic you’re like okay

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catholic

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um if you believe in jesus christ and

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like god you’re

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you would be a catholic so um

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the boy he flees and he’s catholic and

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then he comes back to ireland

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to convert the irish to christianity

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because again the irish at this time

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um celtic heritage was paganism and

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paganism was a religion

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and um so he converts the irish to

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christianity specifically catholicism

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and that boy later becomes known as the

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patron saint of ireland

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aka st patrick so that’s how we have st

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patrick’s day

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oh okay yeah so that’s what that’s about

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and then the big quote with

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st patrick is that he’s credited with

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driving the snakes out of ireland

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and that’s a metaphor because ireland

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never had snakes

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the snakes are a metaphor for pagans

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long story short ireland

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has turned completely catholic by about

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480

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and ireland and england during this time

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are all catholic and that lasts for

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centuries

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and eventually we hit the 16th century

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and then something big happens with

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religion and do you remember what that

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was

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um i’m guessing that there’s like a like

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division oh then i have to do like pokes

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there’s two popes

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am i thinking well tell me what you’re

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thinking with the popes

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like a division in christianity so like

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there’s catholics and then like a new

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division yeah there’s a they weren’t

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hopes but it’s um you’re right that

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there is a division

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in christianity so there is a man called

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martin luther

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and he was a monk and he posted like a

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bunch of complaints about the catholic

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church

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on a door i believe the story goes and

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that was when then he he broke off from

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catholicism and formed his own branch of

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christianity called luther

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lutheranism lutheranism

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so that’s one that’s one break off of

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catholicism and then also

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king henry viii wanted a divorce from

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his wife and in catholicism you’re not

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allowed to get a divorce

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i mean nowadays you can if it’s a very

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serious

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issue like abuse or anything that’s you

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can get a divorce

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but i think he wanted it because his

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wife was not birthing boys

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um so he wanted a divorce and the pope

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would not allow it

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so he broke off from

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the he broke out he created his own

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religion so he could get a divorce and

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it was like another

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branch of christianity and so anglican i

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believe

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um is that religion now started by king

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henry viii

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so the main thing to get from that is

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that

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we now have these other branches of

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christianity

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so those anything that’s not catholic

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is known as protestant so that includes

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baptists

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that includes um what other is there

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yeah there’s did i write them down yeah

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like lutherism

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anglican baptist presbyterian all these

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christian

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terms that you may or may not have heard

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of

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all those branches are known as

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protestant branches and then catholicism

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is its own branch

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okay yeah catholicism was the main one

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and then everyone else broke off from

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catholicism so

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okay so just to clarify so christianity

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and then there’s like two

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it splits up into two groups catholic

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protestant

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and then there’s like all these other

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branches

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yeah which i don’t know i like to think

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of it as like

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christianity okay this is just me being

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picky and it’s probably because i’m

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catholic

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but like i think it’s like christianity

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and catholic there’s like one branches

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catholicism right so like

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like judaism christianity right yeah

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judaism then we get christianity and

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then for christianity we get catholicism

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and then from under catholicism it

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breaks out

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now your example’s probably better that

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like out of christianity breaks these

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other ones

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but they really broke off from

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catholicism yeah like

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chronologically it goes catholic to

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catholicism to

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all the other ones yeah but yeah they

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did they broke off

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so that’s huge so basically now

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um england which is

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they had the king of england everything

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uh england’s now

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protestant and maybe not everyone’s

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protestant yet but now there’s like a

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push

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for you to be protestant in england

0:10:45.440,0:10:49.680
because that’s like the king’s religion

0:10:47.600,0:10:52.560
and so now you’re under

0:10:49.680,0:10:54.399
the king and you follow the king’s form

0:10:52.560,0:10:57.760
of christianity

0:10:54.399,0:11:00.720
okay so

0:10:57.760,0:11:03.040
then we will go into so that’s important

0:11:00.720,0:11:06.000
to know is that

0:11:03.040,0:11:07.120
ireland’s catholic and england was

0:11:06.000,0:11:09.200
catholic but now

0:11:07.120,0:11:11.360
england has broken off into these little

0:11:09.200,0:11:13.760
forms of christianity called

0:11:11.360,0:11:14.480
that or like protestantism we’ll call it

0:11:13.760,0:11:18.560
protestants

0:11:14.480,0:11:20.000
gotcha now to talk about like the actual

0:11:18.560,0:11:23.760
border in ireland

0:11:20.000,0:11:24.800
we have to start with the 17th century

0:11:23.760,0:11:26.399
so there’s something called the

0:11:24.800,0:11:29.839
plantations of ulster

0:11:26.399,0:11:31.279
in the 17th century so that’s when the

0:11:29.839,0:11:34.079
border starts to begin

0:11:31.279,0:11:35.680
since the 12th century british had been

0:11:34.079,0:11:37.360
present in ireland like they’re just

0:11:35.680,0:11:39.040
doing trade they’re hanging out in

0:11:37.360,0:11:42.160
ireland anyways

0:11:39.040,0:11:44.640
and the english we’re doing

0:11:42.160,0:11:46.079
like their regular oppressive practices

0:11:44.640,0:11:48.399
as they’re while they’re present like

0:11:46.079,0:11:50.160
they’re always doing this i feel like

0:11:48.399,0:11:51.760
england just has a checklist like go to

0:11:50.160,0:11:56.160
a new place um

0:11:51.760,0:11:59.279
forbid marriage between the locals

0:11:56.160,0:12:01.519
their language so they did all of that

0:11:59.279,0:12:03.519
when they came to ireland and they’re

0:12:01.519,0:12:05.120
just living on the coast too it’s like

0:12:03.519,0:12:07.760
one or two people trying to do this

0:12:05.120,0:12:10.959
whole thing to like an entire country

0:12:07.760,0:12:13.680
and yeah they banned

0:12:10.959,0:12:15.120
gaelic irish which is actually like

0:12:13.680,0:12:18.399
native

0:12:15.120,0:12:21.360
language of irish people is gaelic

0:12:18.399,0:12:23.040
ulster is a province in ireland and it’s

0:12:21.360,0:12:24.079
the most gaelic irish province in

0:12:23.040,0:12:27.040
ireland

0:12:24.079,0:12:28.720
and basically there was a war between

0:12:27.040,0:12:33.120
protestant english

0:12:28.720,0:12:35.440
and the catholic lords in that area

0:12:33.120,0:12:36.639
and the protestant english ended up

0:12:35.440,0:12:40.160
defeating the catholic

0:12:36.639,0:12:43.040
like the irish catholics and

0:12:40.160,0:12:44.320
so then the irish lord the irish the

0:12:43.040,0:12:46.800
irish catholic lords

0:12:44.320,0:12:47.760
in that area fled and they left behind

0:12:46.800,0:12:49.760
the land

0:12:47.760,0:12:52.000
so the protestant settlers just took

0:12:49.760,0:12:53.519
over that land and those protestant

0:12:52.000,0:12:56.720
settlers were from scotland

0:12:53.519,0:13:00.480
and england and

0:12:56.720,0:13:02.639
they just settled in ulster so after

0:13:00.480,0:13:04.000
that war was fought okay does that make

0:13:02.639,0:13:08.320
sense you look confused

0:13:04.000,0:13:08.320
no but so wait this is ulcer

0:13:08.639,0:13:11.839
ulcers in the south or you said it was

0:13:10.800,0:13:14.880
east where

0:13:11.839,0:13:15.600
no dublin so okay the the english come

0:13:14.880,0:13:17.279
and they’re like

0:13:15.600,0:13:19.360
they settle in this area known as the

0:13:17.279,0:13:21.120
pale and like they didn’t experiment on

0:13:19.360,0:13:22.399
that but the pale is like on the east

0:13:21.120,0:13:23.120
coast so that’s just like they’ve

0:13:22.399,0:13:25.680
arrived

0:13:23.120,0:13:27.200
from like trades okay and then ulster is

0:13:25.680,0:13:31.040
oh i don’t even have my world map

0:13:27.200,0:13:32.839
but also ulster is like um

0:13:31.040,0:13:34.399
like a province in the north like

0:13:32.839,0:13:38.160
northeast okay

0:13:34.399,0:13:41.440
yeah and then right

0:13:38.160,0:13:43.279
in the north it’s not protestant yet

0:13:41.440,0:13:46.320
there’s like english settlers

0:13:43.279,0:13:48.079
and then ulster was still catholic

0:13:46.320,0:13:50.000
irish catholic but you have all these

0:13:48.079,0:13:50.720
english protestants that are settling

0:13:50.000,0:13:54.240
there

0:13:50.720,0:13:56.639
and then they had this war between them

0:13:54.240,0:13:57.760
yeah because you know the english are

0:13:56.639,0:13:59.920
like kind of

0:13:57.760,0:14:01.279
pushing them around and like taking land

0:13:59.920,0:14:02.720
and banning

0:14:01.279,0:14:05.600
or trying to ban these things and

0:14:02.720,0:14:07.600
enforce these laws and so

0:14:05.600,0:14:08.800
they have a they have a war and then the

0:14:07.600,0:14:11.440
irish catholics

0:14:08.800,0:14:12.240
lose the war and then they flee the area

0:14:11.440,0:14:14.959
and

0:14:12.240,0:14:16.160
the english protestants just take over

0:14:14.959,0:14:18.720
the area and like

0:14:16.160,0:14:19.760
claim it as theirs right they’re fleeing

0:14:18.720,0:14:23.279
the north area

0:14:19.760,0:14:26.079
so they’re going to okay that’s not

0:14:23.279,0:14:28.000
clear so they they did flee but i think

0:14:26.079,0:14:31.519
some things said that they split

0:14:28.000,0:14:34.560
they fleed they flew fled i think

0:14:31.519,0:14:36.240
they fled yes they fled to england or

0:14:34.560,0:14:38.480
they fled to the south either way

0:14:36.240,0:14:39.760
long story short they like left the area

0:14:38.480,0:14:42.720
like they’re gone

0:14:39.760,0:14:44.240
yeah so then that’s when they took over

0:14:42.720,0:14:47.279
the protestant english takeover

0:14:44.240,0:14:49.519
and then okay

0:14:47.279,0:14:52.720
so now there’s a lot of protestants in

0:14:49.519,0:14:55.839
that area of ulster

0:14:52.720,0:14:57.120
so although and it’s a province right so

0:14:55.839,0:14:59.279
the province is quite big

0:14:57.120,0:15:01.199
but although there are still some native

0:14:59.279,0:15:04.639
irish catholics in the area

0:15:01.199,0:15:06.720
now the province is now dominated by

0:15:04.639,0:15:08.800
protestants and the protestants are all

0:15:06.720,0:15:14.079
loyal to the british crown

0:15:08.800,0:15:15.920
okay so then we go to 1641

0:15:14.079,0:15:17.199
and we have something called the irish

0:15:15.920,0:15:19.600
confederate wars

0:15:17.199,0:15:20.639
so it’s a war between ireland scotland

0:15:19.600,0:15:22.800
and england

0:15:20.639,0:15:24.079
and i don’t know if this is clear i kind

0:15:22.800,0:15:26.079
of mentioned it but

0:15:24.079,0:15:28.639
uh the protestant settlers were actually

0:15:26.079,0:15:30.720
scottish and english

0:15:28.639,0:15:31.839
okay so keep that in mind too it’s

0:15:30.720,0:15:33.920
really irish is

0:15:31.839,0:15:35.600
the irish are still catholic but and i

0:15:33.920,0:15:38.160
don’t know the history of scotland but

0:15:35.600,0:15:40.240
it’s just from history it was scotland

0:15:38.160,0:15:41.120
and england together that were the

0:15:40.240,0:15:44.639
protestant

0:15:41.120,0:15:47.920
invaders um yeah

0:15:44.639,0:15:50.639
yeah so basically

0:15:47.920,0:15:52.399
1641 irish confederate wars between

0:15:50.639,0:15:54.320
ireland scotland and england

0:15:52.399,0:15:56.480
and it’s really scotland and england

0:15:54.320,0:15:58.399
together against ireland so ireland

0:15:56.480,0:16:01.440
tries to push back against the

0:15:58.399,0:16:05.120
anti-catholic protestant countries

0:16:01.440,0:16:07.839
scotland and um yeah england

0:16:05.120,0:16:08.560
the english end up winning that as well

0:16:07.839,0:16:11.519
again

0:16:08.560,0:16:14.480
and now the catholic majority ireland is

0:16:11.519,0:16:18.320
run by a protestant minority

0:16:14.480,0:16:21.440
okay sounds a lot like the states

0:16:18.320,0:16:24.639
yeah yeah so

0:16:21.440,0:16:26.800
so then we’ll go to 1798 there’s

0:16:24.639,0:16:30.079
something known as the irish rebellion

0:16:26.800,0:16:31.600
so this was inspired by the french and

0:16:30.079,0:16:33.759
american revolutions

0:16:31.600,0:16:36.959
and it was an uprising of the irish

0:16:33.759,0:16:38.560
against british rule in ireland

0:16:36.959,0:16:40.399
but then the french tried to help the

0:16:38.560,0:16:43.600
irish in the uprising

0:16:40.399,0:16:45.360
and again the uprising was suppressed by

0:16:43.600,0:16:48.240
the british crown so the irish

0:16:45.360,0:16:48.880
lost it was really really violent too so

0:16:48.240,0:16:52.000
they lost

0:16:48.880,0:16:55.440
10 000 to 30 000 lives

0:16:52.000,0:16:57.440
wow that’s a that’s a lot

0:16:55.440,0:16:59.120
and i’m sure like the population is like

0:16:57.440,0:17:02.399
really tiny at the time

0:16:59.120,0:17:05.600
yeah oh then that happens in 1781

0:17:02.399,0:17:08.079
again it’s still protestant english

0:17:05.600,0:17:09.520
rural ireland and then we have the

0:17:08.079,0:17:13.520
active union in

0:17:09.520,0:17:14.720
1800s so in the in the year 1800 the

0:17:13.520,0:17:17.199
united kingdom

0:17:14.720,0:17:19.439
which at the time just consisted of

0:17:17.199,0:17:21.360
england and scotland

0:17:19.439,0:17:24.720
because i don’t know are you familiar

0:17:21.360,0:17:28.559
with like the history of the uk

0:17:24.720,0:17:32.240
um no i’d say like isn’t just the uk

0:17:28.559,0:17:36.640
scotland part of ireland and then

0:17:32.240,0:17:39.120
wales is whales in the uk yeah it’s like

0:17:36.640,0:17:40.240
is england not in no england just okay

0:17:39.120,0:17:42.400
england yeah it’s like

0:17:40.240,0:17:43.600
england scotland part of ireland and

0:17:42.400,0:17:46.080
then

0:17:43.600,0:17:47.919
wales yeah i didn’t know what it was

0:17:46.080,0:17:49.520
either but like the

0:17:47.919,0:17:51.280
when i was doing research they showed

0:17:49.520,0:17:54.640
the animation of

0:17:51.280,0:17:56.480
each part joining the uk so it was

0:17:54.640,0:17:59.280
england and then the first country to

0:17:56.480,0:18:02.320
join england and form the uk was

0:17:59.280,0:18:06.720
scotland so

0:18:02.320,0:18:09.360
uh sure um so 1800’s

0:18:06.720,0:18:11.120
uk has been formed and now they’re

0:18:09.360,0:18:11.440
concerned that ireland is going to break

0:18:11.120,0:18:13.440
off

0:18:11.440,0:18:14.480
and join with france in fighting against

0:18:13.440,0:18:16.960
the british again

0:18:14.480,0:18:19.520
because this is only two years after the

0:18:16.960,0:18:23.200
irish rebellion

0:18:19.520,0:18:26.960
so because of this fear the uk absorbs

0:18:23.200,0:18:30.640
ireland into them as well in the active

0:18:26.960,0:18:32.799
union 1800 or 1801 it’s called vote

0:18:30.640,0:18:34.559
um so there’s a lot of opposition to

0:18:32.799,0:18:37.039
this obviously

0:18:34.559,0:18:39.919
and throughout the 1800s there was

0:18:37.039,0:18:42.480
horizon violent rebellions to oppose it

0:18:39.919,0:18:45.120
and demand self-governing

0:18:42.480,0:18:46.400
wow okay so this is like sorry i’m like

0:18:45.120,0:18:47.200
just trying to like think about it this

0:18:46.400,0:18:50.000
is like a big

0:18:47.200,0:18:50.480
a really big deal because at this time

0:18:50.000,0:18:53.280
like

0:18:50.480,0:18:54.799
britain has colonies all over the world

0:18:53.280,0:18:56.000
but then that’s just considered like the

0:18:54.799,0:18:58.400
british empire

0:18:56.000,0:18:59.039
but the fact that ireland was acquired

0:18:58.400,0:19:01.360
into the

0:18:59.039,0:19:02.559
united kingdom that’s saying like you’re

0:19:01.360,0:19:05.760
not just a colony

0:19:02.559,0:19:08.799
you’re like one of us

0:19:05.760,0:19:10.160
you’re the united kingdom so right like

0:19:08.799,0:19:12.960
that’s a lot more significant

0:19:10.160,0:19:14.080
than just having them as a part of the

0:19:12.960,0:19:17.600
empire

0:19:14.080,0:19:19.200
right yeah well how do the empires work

0:19:17.600,0:19:20.720
though because

0:19:19.200,0:19:22.400
like even though they’re they didn’t

0:19:20.720,0:19:25.600
absorb them into the uk

0:19:22.400,0:19:28.080
it’s still like territory and

0:19:25.600,0:19:29.120
rule i think that’s just known as like

0:19:28.080,0:19:30.799
great britain then

0:19:29.120,0:19:32.559
right like because there’s like there’s

0:19:30.799,0:19:33.039
so many terms oh my god it’s like united

0:19:32.559,0:19:34.720
kingdom

0:19:33.039,0:19:36.400
great britain and then england england

0:19:34.720,0:19:37.440
is just like the country i think great

0:19:36.400,0:19:38.880
britain is like

0:19:37.440,0:19:40.640
the whole british empire all the

0:19:38.880,0:19:41.679
colonies they have and then the united

0:19:40.640,0:19:45.600
kingdom

0:19:41.679,0:19:48.559
is just like those few oh

0:19:45.600,0:19:50.880
that they’re like okay but this is like

0:19:48.559,0:19:53.919
that makes so much more sense

0:19:50.880,0:19:55.760
okay i was using england uk

0:19:53.919,0:19:57.440
and great britain all interchangeably

0:19:55.760,0:19:58.080
but that makes so much sense because

0:19:57.440,0:20:01.200
great britain

0:19:58.080,0:20:02.720
is like the great like everything and

0:20:01.200,0:20:05.280
then kingdom is like

0:20:02.720,0:20:06.480
texas but i’m pretty sure okay yeah i’ll

0:20:05.280,0:20:08.559
look into that too i

0:20:06.480,0:20:10.640
never knew i i just called them all the

0:20:08.559,0:20:13.919
same thing

0:20:10.640,0:20:15.919
okay well yeah it’s a pretty big deal so

0:20:13.919,0:20:18.960
ireland is now part of the uk

0:20:15.919,0:20:20.000
okay and uh yeah they’re not having a

0:20:18.960,0:20:22.640
good time they don’t like

0:20:20.000,0:20:23.679
it and well i shouldn’t say that

0:20:22.640,0:20:27.679
northern ireland’s

0:20:23.679,0:20:29.679
having a ball ulster protestant english

0:20:27.679,0:20:31.600
and then the rest of ireland not really

0:20:29.679,0:20:38.080
liking it so

0:20:31.600,0:20:41.039
then in 1920 the official border happens

0:20:38.080,0:20:42.080
under the government of ireland act the

0:20:41.039,0:20:44.000
british government

0:20:42.080,0:20:45.840
made an attempt to reconcile the two

0:20:44.000,0:20:48.480
demands of both areas of ireland

0:20:45.840,0:20:49.120
because north part of ireland which is

0:20:48.480,0:20:50.720
also

0:20:49.120,0:20:52.720
well not just ulster but the north part

0:20:50.720,0:20:54.159
of ireland is like protestant and the

0:20:52.720,0:20:56.000
south part is catholic

0:20:54.159,0:20:57.919
and there’s all these fights and

0:20:56.000,0:21:01.280
uprisings and rebellions and

0:20:57.919,0:21:02.640
civil wars trying to like push for

0:21:01.280,0:21:06.159
independent rule so

0:21:02.640,0:21:09.039
to reconcile the demands they

0:21:06.159,0:21:10.320
create a partition between the parts of

0:21:09.039,0:21:13.039
ireland

0:21:10.320,0:21:14.720
so the irish nationalist which is known

0:21:13.039,0:21:17.520
as southern ireland demands

0:21:14.720,0:21:18.960
for the separation of ireland from

0:21:17.520,0:21:19.360
britain so they don’t want to be a part

0:21:18.960,0:21:21.280
of

0:21:19.360,0:21:22.480
the uk they don’t want to be associated

0:21:21.280,0:21:24.159
with britain

0:21:22.480,0:21:26.240
like they just want to be ireland and

0:21:24.159,0:21:27.440
then the unionist which is the northern

0:21:26.240,0:21:29.360
part of ireland

0:21:27.440,0:21:30.480
demands to remain part of the united

0:21:29.360,0:21:32.880
kingdom so they

0:21:30.480,0:21:33.760
they want to be a part of the uk they

0:21:32.880,0:21:37.039
like it

0:21:33.760,0:21:38.960
and they’re in conflict

0:21:37.039,0:21:41.039
okay oh wait okay i have two questions

0:21:38.960,0:21:42.320
really quick okay first

0:21:41.039,0:21:44.240
this is like a stupid question this

0:21:42.320,0:21:45.679
partition is it just like

0:21:44.240,0:21:47.919
invisible is there like a physical

0:21:45.679,0:21:50.000
structure that’s actually like is there

0:21:47.919,0:21:52.080
a wall or like a fence or something or

0:21:50.000,0:21:56.000
is it just like

0:21:52.080,0:21:57.520
no so uh

0:21:56.000,0:22:00.000
you’re asking a good question there’s

0:21:57.520,0:22:03.039
not i’m sure there’s like a gate

0:22:00.000,0:22:04.960
maybe but it’s not like a physical wall

0:22:03.039,0:22:05.360
yet but in northern ireland which i’ll

0:22:04.960,0:22:08.080
get to

0:22:05.360,0:22:08.720
later is like there’s actually walls

0:22:08.080,0:22:11.919
between

0:22:08.720,0:22:13.360
protestant and catholics like they build

0:22:11.919,0:22:14.799
they’re called peace walls but they

0:22:13.360,0:22:16.240
literally build them separating the

0:22:14.799,0:22:17.039
neighborhoods because there’s so much

0:22:16.240,0:22:20.480
violence

0:22:17.039,0:22:21.360
like it’s really bad um and then but

0:22:20.480,0:22:23.520
between like

0:22:21.360,0:22:25.520
the partition that we’re talking about

0:22:23.520,0:22:26.880
where there’s an official border now

0:22:25.520,0:22:28.799
i don’t know if they built an actual

0:22:26.880,0:22:31.360
wall for that yeah

0:22:28.799,0:22:32.799
okay yeah okay probably yeah i’m

0:22:31.360,0:22:34.320
guessing there’s not like a

0:22:32.799,0:22:36.880
yeah along the entire border but

0:22:34.320,0:22:39.919
probably around parts but maybe because

0:22:36.880,0:22:41.600
it’s not a huge island so that’s true

0:22:39.919,0:22:42.000
and if they hate each other that much

0:22:41.600,0:22:44.240
like

0:22:42.000,0:22:46.240
yeah if it gets that violent then yeah

0:22:44.240,0:22:48.000
and then okay like this my second it’s

0:22:46.240,0:22:49.280
mostly like just a remark but like i

0:22:48.000,0:22:51.840
guess

0:22:49.280,0:22:53.200
so like in 1920 this is like after world

0:22:51.840,0:22:56.960
war one

0:22:53.200,0:22:57.760
so like the whole everyone in ireland

0:22:56.960,0:23:00.000
probably had to

0:22:57.760,0:23:01.120
fight world war one under the british

0:23:00.000,0:23:04.480
flag so i’m sure

0:23:01.120,0:23:06.799
that’s like kind of what caused

0:23:04.480,0:23:09.600
uh like the this is what really like

0:23:06.799,0:23:11.039
flared the argument into

0:23:09.600,0:23:12.559
like people actually like declaring

0:23:11.039,0:23:13.440
themselves as like unit versus

0:23:12.559,0:23:15.840
nationalists

0:23:13.440,0:23:16.559
right am i that’s just like no you are

0:23:15.840,0:23:18.640
literally

0:23:16.559,0:23:20.240
spot on like you really know your

0:23:18.640,0:23:23.679
history because

0:23:20.240,0:23:25.120
that’s exactly like what happened okay

0:23:23.679,0:23:28.240
i’m just gonna go right into it

0:23:25.120,0:23:29.840
so in 1922 we

0:23:28.240,0:23:31.600
there was the irish free state

0:23:29.840,0:23:34.240
constitution act

0:23:31.600,0:23:35.120
and that established that island was a

0:23:34.240,0:23:36.799
free state

0:23:35.120,0:23:38.640
but a dominion of the british

0:23:36.799,0:23:41.919
commonwealth so that

0:23:38.640,0:23:43.039
is like canada australia new zealand

0:23:41.919,0:23:45.360
south africa

0:23:43.039,0:23:48.320
they’re their own country but they also

0:23:45.360,0:23:51.039
the queen is technically their queen too

0:23:48.320,0:23:52.320
yeah okay i don’t know how it works

0:23:51.039,0:23:55.520
because we’re american

0:23:52.320,0:23:57.919
of like u.s territories

0:23:55.520,0:24:00.000
like we talked about in our minisones

0:23:57.919,0:24:02.240
where they have their

0:24:00.000,0:24:03.039
own local governments but then they’re

0:24:02.240,0:24:04.799
under the

0:24:03.039,0:24:08.480
ultimate jurisdiction of the president

0:24:04.799,0:24:12.080
of the united states kind of similar

0:24:08.480,0:24:15.200
but yeah okay and so yeah

0:24:12.080,0:24:16.480
ireland ireland becomes one of those in

0:24:15.200,0:24:18.480
this treaty

0:24:16.480,0:24:20.000
or is it a treaty in the irish free

0:24:18.480,0:24:23.200
state constitution act

0:24:20.000,0:24:26.000
they gave the north part of ireland a

0:24:23.200,0:24:28.480
clause that allowed them to opt out of

0:24:26.000,0:24:30.240
the agreement and stay part of the uk

0:24:28.480,0:24:32.799
and they took that immediately like they

0:24:30.240,0:24:35.919
were yes opt me out i don’t want to be

0:24:32.799,0:24:37.919
like i want to be part of the uk so

0:24:35.919,0:24:39.760
now there are two british parliaments

0:24:37.919,0:24:41.440
because of this there’s one in dublin

0:24:39.760,0:24:44.559
for the south and then there’s one

0:24:41.440,0:24:47.279
in belfast for the north

0:24:44.559,0:24:49.600
and some of the people in the south are

0:24:47.279,0:24:52.080
okay with the treaty because

0:24:49.600,0:24:54.159
it’s they’re an irish free state so

0:24:52.080,0:24:56.080
they’re like wow like we’re

0:24:54.159,0:24:57.440
we’re free we’re irish we’re like

0:24:56.080,0:24:59.120
independent and

0:24:57.440,0:25:01.360
other people are against the treaty

0:24:59.120,0:25:03.679
because they’re like no we’re still

0:25:01.360,0:25:04.400
under the british crown we’re like a

0:25:03.679,0:25:06.640
formerly

0:25:04.400,0:25:07.919
a territory you know like we don’t like

0:25:06.640,0:25:09.840
it it’s not good enough we want to be

0:25:07.919,0:25:14.720
fully independent

0:25:09.840,0:25:15.200
so that leads to a civil war oh also too

0:25:14.720,0:25:17.679
so

0:25:15.200,0:25:19.679
and also people who are anti-treaty felt

0:25:17.679,0:25:22.080
that no we’re also entitled to

0:25:19.679,0:25:23.840
the whole country of ireland not just a

0:25:22.080,0:25:24.799
part of it like northern ireland is ours

0:25:23.840,0:25:26.640
as well

0:25:24.799,0:25:28.320
oh so that’s okay so as the nationalists

0:25:26.640,0:25:31.919
they’re not just like oh

0:25:28.320,0:25:33.760
like southern ireland will secede

0:25:31.919,0:25:35.440
from like the uk like will be our own

0:25:33.760,0:25:38.559
thing they want everyone

0:25:35.440,0:25:40.720
in the whole island to yeah so i mean

0:25:38.559,0:25:42.080
because it but right the south has like

0:25:40.720,0:25:43.440
split ideas too right

0:25:42.080,0:25:45.360
some of the south people are like it’s

0:25:43.440,0:25:47.279
cool it’s fine

0:25:45.360,0:25:49.440
like everything’s fine and then like

0:25:47.279,0:25:52.159
we’re free and the other part is like

0:25:49.440,0:25:53.840
no we get all of it i’m sure within that

0:25:52.159,0:25:55.360
there’s arguments too like no maybe we

0:25:53.840,0:25:56.559
don’t get all of it but like no we don’t

0:25:55.360,0:25:58.480
want to be a part of

0:25:56.559,0:25:59.760
like a free state anyways it should just

0:25:58.480,0:26:01.840
be independent

0:25:59.760,0:26:03.679
um so obviously there’s differing

0:26:01.840,0:26:07.440
opinions on

0:26:03.679,0:26:09.679
the treaty gotcha but that

0:26:07.440,0:26:12.159
disagreement led to a civil war in the

0:26:09.679,0:26:14.960
south which was pro and anti-treaty

0:26:12.159,0:26:16.400
the pro-treaty side wins and solidifies

0:26:14.960,0:26:19.360
the irish free state as

0:26:16.400,0:26:19.360
british dominion

0:26:19.440,0:26:26.880
so then in 1937

0:26:23.840,0:26:29.440
there they held a vote in

0:26:26.880,0:26:31.440
i think south ireland so in 1937 a vote

0:26:29.440,0:26:34.159
was held for a new constitution

0:26:31.440,0:26:35.840
to remove all british ties from ireland

0:26:34.159,0:26:37.760
and 56 percent

0:26:35.840,0:26:39.679
of people who voted in that were in

0:26:37.760,0:26:42.159
favor of the new constitution

0:26:39.679,0:26:44.559
and renaming the country to ireland or

0:26:42.159,0:26:47.200
the republic of ireland to differentiate

0:26:44.559,0:26:50.400
itself from the island ireland

0:26:47.200,0:26:52.960
and so

0:26:50.400,0:26:53.600
south of ireland is all cool they’re

0:26:52.960,0:26:56.400
like yeah

0:26:53.600,0:26:58.000
let’s remove like all british ties and

0:26:56.400,0:27:00.799
because they removed

0:26:58.000,0:27:02.400
their british ties from it or because

0:27:00.799,0:27:04.000
like you mentioned the war right and

0:27:02.400,0:27:07.120
like how they had to fight under the

0:27:04.000,0:27:09.600
crown so after this constitution passed

0:27:07.120,0:27:11.840
ireland’s now its own country and they

0:27:09.600,0:27:13.600
used that to exercise their right to

0:27:11.840,0:27:17.440
remain neutral in world war

0:27:13.600,0:27:20.399
ii oh okay yeah

0:27:17.440,0:27:22.000
so anyways south island is peachy keen

0:27:20.399,0:27:24.480
it’s just ireland now

0:27:22.000,0:27:26.000
and now we go to northern ireland

0:27:24.480,0:27:27.679
because remember there are still irish

0:27:26.000,0:27:30.480
catholics in northern ireland

0:27:27.679,0:27:31.520
so then we enter a time period known as

0:27:30.480,0:27:35.279
the troubles

0:27:31.520,0:27:37.679
so this started in 1969 and it was

0:27:35.279,0:27:38.320
like a lot of violence in northern

0:27:37.679,0:27:41.360
ireland

0:27:38.320,0:27:42.640
ireland in 1969 violence broke out in

0:27:41.360,0:27:44.720
northern ireland

0:27:42.640,0:27:46.720
because although a majority of northern

0:27:44.720,0:27:48.559
ireland is protestant there is still a

0:27:46.720,0:27:50.080
minority of irish catholics and

0:27:48.559,0:27:52.399
nationalists

0:27:50.080,0:27:53.919
so the catholic minority surprise

0:27:52.399,0:27:56.240
surprise

0:27:53.919,0:27:58.320
not really it’s not a surprise um they

0:27:56.240,0:27:58.880
were subjected to discrimination when it

0:27:58.320,0:28:01.679
came to

0:27:58.880,0:28:03.840
employment housing and education like

0:28:01.679,0:28:08.399
routine british oppression

0:28:03.840,0:28:11.600
we we know the story as americans and

0:28:08.399,0:28:13.679
the result um of that was

0:28:11.600,0:28:15.279
violent conflict for three decades

0:28:13.679,0:28:16.720
between the irish

0:28:15.279,0:28:19.520
and the british catholics and

0:28:16.720,0:28:22.559
protestants wow three decades

0:28:19.520,0:28:24.960
oh yeah it was very bad and uh

0:28:22.559,0:28:26.640
like we just said a little earlier the

0:28:24.960,0:28:29.039
like physical it was so bad that

0:28:26.640,0:28:30.240
physical walls got put up between

0:28:29.039,0:28:31.919
neighborhoods

0:28:30.240,0:28:34.399
because separating catholics and

0:28:31.919,0:28:37.760
protestants because the violence was

0:28:34.399,0:28:41.039
very bad it was actually quote unquote

0:28:37.760,0:28:42.480
um spoken about as mild warfare like

0:28:41.039,0:28:44.960
that’s how bad it was maybe not like a

0:28:42.480,0:28:46.960
full-on war but like bullets are going

0:28:44.960,0:28:50.240
off and everything

0:28:46.960,0:28:53.279
wow that’s crazy

0:28:50.240,0:28:54.960
it’s bad actually yeah okay this is just

0:28:53.279,0:28:56.320
i guess i know but i was gonna take a

0:28:54.960,0:28:58.720
class on terrorism

0:28:56.320,0:29:00.080
at osu and i was like so i was like

0:28:58.720,0:29:02.159
reading the description and it was like

0:29:00.080,0:29:03.440
focusing on ireland and i remember

0:29:02.159,0:29:06.799
reading it being like

0:29:03.440,0:29:08.640
terrorism in ireland and then i get it

0:29:06.799,0:29:10.720
but it’s like just not something you

0:29:08.640,0:29:12.880
would think of i guess

0:29:10.720,0:29:14.640
yeah no i was surprised because i was

0:29:12.880,0:29:15.120
like i wonder why ireland’s separate and

0:29:14.640,0:29:17.360
it’s a

0:29:15.120,0:29:18.559
big deal this has been this has lasted

0:29:17.360,0:29:20.799
since

0:29:18.559,0:29:21.840
like the english have come to ireland

0:29:20.799,0:29:25.679
they’ve been having

0:29:21.840,0:29:29.600
this issue right it’s still ongoing

0:29:25.679,0:29:32.960
so that you know the violence

0:29:29.600,0:29:37.200
lasts until 1995 so it’s literally

0:29:32.960,0:29:40.399
like 25 years long and 3 500

0:29:37.200,0:29:44.240
people lose their lives wow

0:29:40.399,0:29:46.080
so to end the troubles there

0:29:44.240,0:29:48.080
or the troubles was resolved through the

0:29:46.080,0:29:51.520
signing of the good friday agreement

0:29:48.080,0:29:55.039
also known as the belfast agreement

0:29:51.520,0:29:56.960
and ireland okay so what what it said in

0:29:55.039,0:29:59.120
this like agreement was that ireland has

0:29:56.960,0:29:59.760
to remove their claim over northern

0:29:59.120,0:30:02.159
ireland

0:29:59.760,0:30:03.520
because their constitution was like yeah

0:30:02.159,0:30:06.080
we’re independent and

0:30:03.520,0:30:07.840
we get all of ireland and so that’s why

0:30:06.080,0:30:08.880
there’s a lot of conflict too because

0:30:07.840,0:30:11.679
the nationalists are like

0:30:08.880,0:30:12.399
no like we’re this is all ireland and

0:30:11.679,0:30:14.559
then

0:30:12.399,0:30:15.840
the protestants are like no like we’re

0:30:14.559,0:30:18.480
the uk

0:30:15.840,0:30:20.240
you know and so ireland has to remove

0:30:18.480,0:30:22.240
their claim over northern ireland

0:30:20.240,0:30:23.360
in the constitution and the british and

0:30:22.240,0:30:26.720
irish governments

0:30:23.360,0:30:29.520
agreed that if the time comes that

0:30:26.720,0:30:31.200
the majority of northern ireland ever

0:30:29.520,0:30:33.279
wants to break off

0:30:31.200,0:30:34.399
and become independent or rejoin

0:30:33.279,0:30:36.720
southern ireland

0:30:34.399,0:30:38.159
then it will be allowed to do so like

0:30:36.720,0:30:42.080
peacefully

0:30:38.159,0:30:42.799
okay yeah cool yeah i know it’s a good

0:30:42.080,0:30:44.559
resolution

0:30:42.799,0:30:46.240
granted i don’t know if that’s ever

0:30:44.559,0:30:47.520
gonna happen since the majority is

0:30:46.240,0:30:50.559
protestant

0:30:47.520,0:30:52.159
um so basically northern ireland is not

0:30:50.559,0:30:53.600
going to become a part of ireland until

0:30:52.159,0:30:56.159
a majority decide to

0:30:53.600,0:30:57.919
and it has kept the peace so far between

0:30:56.159,0:31:00.000
the regions there hasn’t been

0:30:57.919,0:31:02.080
there’s still mild violence and conflict

0:31:00.000,0:31:05.279
between the two but it’s not as bad as

0:31:02.080,0:31:06.799
it was during the troubles era okay oh

0:31:05.279,0:31:08.240
so okay i don’t know if you’re like

0:31:06.799,0:31:11.039
about to talk about this but are you

0:31:08.240,0:31:12.720
gonna talk about brexit at any point

0:31:11.039,0:31:14.480
that’s a good question i was i had a

0:31:12.720,0:31:15.120
feeling you’re gonna ask about brexit do

0:31:14.480,0:31:17.200
you

0:31:15.120,0:31:19.360
like do you have questions on it yeah

0:31:17.200,0:31:22.000
because i’m just confused because i know

0:31:19.360,0:31:26.000
there was a lot of confusion when

0:31:22.000,0:31:28.720
england originally voted to um

0:31:26.000,0:31:30.559
to remove themselves from the european

0:31:28.720,0:31:34.320
union right because then it was like

0:31:30.559,0:31:35.840
oh northern ire would northern ireland

0:31:34.320,0:31:37.440
go with them and then like would

0:31:35.840,0:31:38.960
scotland go with them

0:31:37.440,0:31:41.120
and then i think in like the rest of the

0:31:38.960,0:31:42.559
uk like is it just england or is it all

0:31:41.120,0:31:46.240
of the uk

0:31:42.559,0:31:48.399
um and then i think oh

0:31:46.240,0:31:49.760
i would try to check this but i think

0:31:48.399,0:31:52.080
also like scotland

0:31:49.760,0:31:54.399
they had a vote to see if they wanted to

0:31:52.080,0:31:57.360
uh remove themselves from the uk

0:31:54.399,0:31:58.240
but then it was like it was like 55 or

0:31:57.360,0:32:00.159
like 45

0:31:58.240,0:32:02.240
but basically they voted to stay in the

0:32:00.159,0:32:03.760
uk so i think

0:32:02.240,0:32:06.159
they’re no longer part of the european

0:32:03.760,0:32:07.519
union but honestly i don’t know brexit

0:32:06.159,0:32:09.120
is very confusing

0:32:07.519,0:32:11.039
and europe is really not like my

0:32:09.120,0:32:13.039
fortitude yeah

0:32:11.039,0:32:14.640
no i didn’t i tried to look a little

0:32:13.039,0:32:16.240
into brexit with it because i didn’t

0:32:14.640,0:32:18.080
understand what that was about

0:32:16.240,0:32:19.360
but it really what i got from the

0:32:18.080,0:32:22.080
research was

0:32:19.360,0:32:24.240
yeah like england wanted to remove

0:32:22.080,0:32:25.760
themselves from the european or uk

0:32:24.240,0:32:28.320
the uk wanted to remove themselves from

0:32:25.760,0:32:30.960
the european union and

0:32:28.320,0:32:31.919
the main concerns with that with ireland

0:32:30.960,0:32:33.760
is because

0:32:31.919,0:32:35.919
like right now it’s a soft border

0:32:33.760,0:32:37.039
between northern ireland and southern

0:32:35.919,0:32:39.360
ireland but

0:32:37.039,0:32:41.440
if you were to leave that’s a hard

0:32:39.360,0:32:44.000
border now because it it’s not just

0:32:41.440,0:32:46.480
a border between ireland and the uk it’s

0:32:44.000,0:32:48.080
a border between like the eu

0:32:46.480,0:32:50.720
and then this country that’s not a part

0:32:48.080,0:32:53.200
of it you would need a visa right

0:32:50.720,0:32:54.320
to like go because like you’re not like

0:32:53.200,0:32:56.480
if you have a

0:32:54.320,0:32:58.799
eu visa then you could just travel

0:32:56.480,0:33:01.440
freely freely to any eu country

0:32:58.799,0:33:03.519
but if there’s a hard border there half

0:33:01.440,0:33:05.039
of it is in the eu half of it isn’t like

0:33:03.519,0:33:06.240
yeah then you would i mean

0:33:05.039,0:33:07.279
i don’t know if that actually happened

0:33:06.240,0:33:09.519
but like yeah you’re right like

0:33:07.279,0:33:12.080
immigration would be like restricted

0:33:09.519,0:33:13.919
or like it’d be filtered you know also

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don’t they have different currencies

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like yeah the eu has the same currencies

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and then

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but then again do they we have to ask a

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european friend

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because i’m pretty sure isn’t sweden in

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the eu

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they are aren’t they um

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i i don’t think so actually oh okay

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never mind that because sweden uses they

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don’t use like

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the same do they use the pound in the eu

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i’m gonna

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i’m gonna look up i’m gonna pick up

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ireland currency

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and then i’m gonna look up who’s in the

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eat you

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like is sweden let me see okay sorry i

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think you cut out for a second

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sorry european union country

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yeah swedenborg but sweden doesn’t use

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the same

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currency what is uh

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um okay so the republic of ireland is

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the euro

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and then northern ireland they use the

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british pound

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did the uk already split

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yeah didn’t brexit like already happen

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yeah

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so i can’t believe that you

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i think so oh no it says

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the you oh the uk has left the eu and

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the transition period

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after brexit comes to an end this year

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in january 2020.

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so why are they wow so i wonder what’s

0:34:39.440,0:34:44.399
going on with ireland

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to our irish viewers please let us know

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what’s up

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send us a message at how did we not know

0:34:48.240,0:34:51.919
that

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gmail.com let us know how you’re doing

0:34:51.919,0:34:55.760
and what what’s going on over there

0:34:53.679,0:34:58.079
what’s it like do you do you need a visa

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to go to northern ireland

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yeah that was a good question and

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basically yeah i talked about yeah signs

0:35:04.800,0:35:10.320
of the conflict can still be seen today

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especially in belfast and uh

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yeah there are physical walls separating

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the communities

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and there’s still occasional violence

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but the government has a goal to remove

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all of these so-called peace walls

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by 2023. wow

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okay interesting i also okay just

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another remark i was just

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like thinking about i wonder for the

0:35:29.359,0:35:33.520
brexit vote

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i i’d be really interested to see what

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the breakdown was like what each

0:35:35.599,0:35:41.040
region and like um what each

0:35:38.880,0:35:44.560
like country within the uk like voted

0:35:41.040,0:35:48.079
for like i wonder if like ireland

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voted like strongly in favor or against

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it compared to like yeah i wonder if

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like the vote percentage is

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like differed between

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like england ireland scotland rails

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that’d be really interesting

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yeah let me see i will see if it breaks

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down yeah it does break down

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okay so the

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wow this is so interesting i never

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understood it and now

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i’m like okay that’s what’s going on so

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england

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wow it was very close well okay scotland

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um basically so england voted to leave

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by 53 percent so close

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northern ireland voted to stay by 55

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percent

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super close as well scotland voted to

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stay

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for 62 percent and then wales voted to

0:36:38.960,0:36:44.560
leave for 52

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wow so it’s really close all

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wow those like aren’t really big margins

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you know

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yeah it’s very close just scotland’s

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like okay

0:36:50.880,0:36:54.720
it’s pretty clear you want to stay but

0:36:53.200,0:36:57.119
they lost still

0:36:54.720,0:36:59.200
because most people wanted to leave

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after that then they had to vote like oh

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should we stay in the uk

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and then they were like yeah let’s stay

0:37:02.560,0:37:07.119
in the uk but then that vote was also

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like very slim

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yeah wow that’s so interesting

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yeah i like never realized how

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yeah the history of the uk was the

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history of the uk is

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a lot there’s a lot of stuff i have a

0:37:21.359,0:37:24.240
bias

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towards european history but i’m going

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to like challenge myself in season two

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to become more aware and more informed

0:37:29.119,0:37:34.000
of

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the history oh that’s nice i’m not

0:37:34.000,0:37:38.320
printing press i’m done that was enough

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european history

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that’s true but i guess like okay here’s

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the thing it’s like even when we talked

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about european history

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in you like in the us in history class

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and high school

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like i feel like we didn’t talk about

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this like

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like uh just how the british came into

0:37:52.800,0:37:54.880
ireland

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and like how there’s this huge division

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and we didn’t like talk about like

0:37:55.839,0:38:00.240
minority voices

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within the uk so i think true also

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that’s really good to know

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because for our viewers who aren’t aware

0:38:04.800,0:38:09.440
or even our american viewers

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anytime you want to talk about racism in

0:38:09.440,0:38:12.880
the states

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there’s always a white irish person

0:38:12.880,0:38:17.200
irish-american person who says

0:38:15.200,0:38:18.560
look at how the irish were treated and

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this shows you

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right now if you look into the history

0:38:20.240,0:38:24.400
of ireland that

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the discrimination against irish was not

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because they’re white

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it’s because they were catholic so next

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time you hear someone say that you can

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say

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it’s catholics versus protestants

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because for people who don’t know about

0:38:35.200,0:38:37.280
the history of the united states if you

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missed

0:38:37.280,0:38:42.560
season one um the

0:38:40.800,0:38:44.640
i guess biggest bullies in american

0:38:42.560,0:38:47.680
history are the protestant

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english that came over well yeah and

0:38:47.680,0:38:52.160
like that’s the whole thing is like even

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irish catholics in america were like

0:38:52.160,0:38:55.359
discriminated against

0:38:53.839,0:38:56.560
when they first came like you can’t

0:38:55.359,0:38:57.920
argue against that there’s a lot of

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discrimination

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however like yes irish catholics

0:39:01.280,0:39:07.599
in the us were paid less than american

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like them protestant christians in the

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us

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but they were still paid more than

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people of color within the u.s

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and then once irish catholics started

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unionizing

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they did not include people of color

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in their union protests and yeah they

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like

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so right there is intersectionality

0:39:26.160,0:39:30.240
between oppressions right it’s like

0:39:28.560,0:39:32.320
muslims who come to the states

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especially from african countries

0:39:32.320,0:39:35.599
you’re discriminated on religion you’re

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discriminated against by

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color you’re discriminated against by

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gender if you identify as transgender or

0:39:40.000,0:39:44.000
you

0:39:40.400,0:39:45.520
are female yeah like which country

0:39:44.000,0:39:46.960
you’re coming from like which continent

0:39:45.520,0:39:49.440
like yeah i know it’s like

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there’s a lot of different degrees and

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like

0:39:50.079,0:39:54.320
various layers yeah but yeah that that’s

0:39:52.560,0:39:57.599
the partition of ireland

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wow that’s really interesting um i

0:39:57.599,0:40:02.480
really had no idea how intense their

0:40:00.720,0:40:04.400
history was so i’m really glad

0:40:02.480,0:40:05.599
we learned about that and now i got to

0:40:04.400,0:40:08.079
pay attention

0:40:05.599,0:40:09.599
to what’s going on in ireland like today

0:40:08.079,0:40:12.800
i really know nothing about

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it so yeah thank you so much jack for

0:40:12.800,0:40:18.560
sharing this and for starting off season

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two i’m so excited for the rest of

0:40:18.560,0:40:25.130
season two

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yes of course yes bye

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