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Show Notes
Ireland: the home of gorgeous coastal mountains and grassy plains. Yet, despite the beauty and charm, the island of Ireland has a long history of conflict. So much so, that the island is split into two *not physically of course*. In our Season 2, World History premiere, Jac takes us through the conflict between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland .
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Transcript
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hello everybody and welcome back to
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another episode of how did we not know
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that
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i’m Nat i’m jack and we’re back
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with season two
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so exciting so exciting um yeah it’s
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season two this season we’re going to be
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talking
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about world history so we have a lot of
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fun and exciting topics coming your way
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so
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today jack i i actually don’t know what
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you’re going to talk about
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today i’m going to talk about ireland
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for our irish viewers who are so
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dedicated we see you
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wow shout out to our irish viewers
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yeah so actually i’m gonna talk about
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let’s just get right into it happy
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season two
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missed you guys very excited so
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nat did you know that ireland is
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actually split
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isn’t it like northern southern ireland
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but i honestly like i hear about
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like issues going on with north north
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and south ireland today but i don’t know
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the history behind it yeah me neither
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i never knew i yeah i knew that um
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actually no i really didn’t know much i
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thought i heard that like ireland was
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part of the uk
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and it wasn’t part of the uk and then i
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wasn’t sure
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what was going on there and so actually
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ireland like is an island like the
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actual
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just like the name of the island is
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called ireland
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and that’s an island for our viewers who
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are like
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not familiar of the location of ireland
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it’s an island that’s off
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western europe and it’s in the atlantic
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sea so it’s like
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north west from europe
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europe it’s like the northwest section
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it’s not in like
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yeah is it closest to england like is it
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like right off the coast or is it yeah
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it’s like right off the coast of england
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okay and um yeah so
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that island is split into two parts with
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the south being called
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ireland like what we we formally know is
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ireland or the republic of ireland
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and then the north is northern ireland
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and it’s actually part of the uk
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okay yeah so then records of like
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the island of ireland date back to
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forever
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like ten 000 a.d prehistoric times
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there’s records
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and then they’re like it’s very well
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recorded
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everything that happened in ireland so
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we’re actually going to start in 500 bc
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with the arrival of celts
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so around 500 bc
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people immigrated to ireland and that
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group of people
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were called celtic people was like
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celtic heritage
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and that was that later became known
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as the dominant irish ethnic group
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okay and so the religion uh
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well actually do you know why i like
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ireland split can you take a guess
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isn’t it like one half of it they’re
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protestants and then the other half is
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like catholic
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yeah literally so it’s a it’s a witch
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yeah okay we’ll talk about it it’s
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really interesting um
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but yeah i know basically it’s like a
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religious
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difference and
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we’re gonna go back but the celts that
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like um settled ireland
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had religious beliefs that were not the
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same as the main world and so
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any time that you have differing like
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beliefs at least back then
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from like the dominant religions you’re
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called
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pagan so that religion that celtics
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practiced was called paganism
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and it wasn’t until the 5th century so
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that’s 400 bc
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when a 16 year old boy from roman
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britain
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was kidnapped and roman britain is not
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like england it’s like another i can’t
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really describe it that well but it’s
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he’s kidnapped from
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like a different area the 16 year old
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boy
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this is just like a fun fact and he um
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he’s taken to ireland as a slave
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and then he escapes ireland and
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he goes and like studies catholicism so
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the
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okay the major religion at the time is
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catholicism
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at least like that form of christianity
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there’s like judaism
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i know you’re not religious so i’m
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trying to break it down
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yeah so like basically okay rough
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religious
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like religion history lesson there’s
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like judaism
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and judaism is like jewish and then
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jesus who is i don’t know if anyone’s
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heard of jesus christ
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he’s like the head of christianity but
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jesus was originally a jew so he studied
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he practiced judaism and then when jesus
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um was he became known as the son of
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god in the eyes of christians and he
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died
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for our sins and everything and so jesus
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then like if you believe that jesus is
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like the coming of christ then that is
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christianity so you believe in jesus
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christ you believe in
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like god and everything does that make
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sense i feel like i need to bring a
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whiteboard out here and like sketch it
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out
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like draw lines so like the difference
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like the main difference between
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judaism and christianity is that
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christians believe that jesus is the son
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of god
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but judaism doesn’t necessarily
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believe that he’s the son of god yeah
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they don’t they believe he’s like a guy
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um but like not that he was like the
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coming of christ or anything
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okay um i hope that’s right i’m not fact
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check myself
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but um yeah so anyway so
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jesus forms this branch it’s
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christianity and like
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the biggest first branch of christianity
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is actually catholicism
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so that’s the roman catholic faith and
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that was the only form of christianity
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back then so you’re
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like it’s catholic you’re like okay
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catholic
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um if you believe in jesus christ and
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like god you’re
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you would be a catholic so um
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the boy he flees and he’s catholic and
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then he comes back to ireland
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to convert the irish to christianity
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because again the irish at this time
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um celtic heritage was paganism and
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paganism was a religion
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and um so he converts the irish to
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christianity specifically catholicism
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and that boy later becomes known as the
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patron saint of ireland
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aka st patrick so that’s how we have st
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patrick’s day
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oh okay yeah so that’s what that’s about
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and then the big quote with
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st patrick is that he’s credited with
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driving the snakes out of ireland
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and that’s a metaphor because ireland
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never had snakes
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the snakes are a metaphor for pagans
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long story short ireland
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has turned completely catholic by about
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480
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and ireland and england during this time
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are all catholic and that lasts for
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centuries
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and eventually we hit the 16th century
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and then something big happens with
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religion and do you remember what that
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was
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um i’m guessing that there’s like a like
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division oh then i have to do like pokes
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there’s two popes
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am i thinking well tell me what you’re
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thinking with the popes
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like a division in christianity so like
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there’s catholics and then like a new
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division yeah there’s a they weren’t
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hopes but it’s um you’re right that
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there is a division
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in christianity so there is a man called
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martin luther
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and he was a monk and he posted like a
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bunch of complaints about the catholic
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church
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on a door i believe the story goes and
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that was when then he he broke off from
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catholicism and formed his own branch of
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christianity called luther
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lutheranism lutheranism
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so that’s one that’s one break off of
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catholicism and then also
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king henry viii wanted a divorce from
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his wife and in catholicism you’re not
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allowed to get a divorce
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i mean nowadays you can if it’s a very
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serious
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issue like abuse or anything that’s you
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can get a divorce
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but i think he wanted it because his
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wife was not birthing boys
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um so he wanted a divorce and the pope
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would not allow it
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so he broke off from
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the he broke out he created his own
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religion so he could get a divorce and
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it was like another
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branch of christianity and so anglican i
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believe
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um is that religion now started by king
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henry viii
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so the main thing to get from that is
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that
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we now have these other branches of
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christianity
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so those anything that’s not catholic
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is known as protestant so that includes
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baptists
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that includes um what other is there
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yeah there’s did i write them down yeah
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like lutherism
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anglican baptist presbyterian all these
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christian
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terms that you may or may not have heard
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of
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all those branches are known as
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protestant branches and then catholicism
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is its own branch
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okay yeah catholicism was the main one
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and then everyone else broke off from
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catholicism so
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okay so just to clarify so christianity
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and then there’s like two
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it splits up into two groups catholic
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protestant
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and then there’s like all these other
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branches
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yeah which i don’t know i like to think
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of it as like
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christianity okay this is just me being
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picky and it’s probably because i’m
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catholic
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but like i think it’s like christianity
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and catholic there’s like one branches
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catholicism right so like
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like judaism christianity right yeah
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judaism then we get christianity and
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then for christianity we get catholicism
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and then from under catholicism it
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breaks out
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now your example’s probably better that
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like out of christianity breaks these
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other ones
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but they really broke off from
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catholicism yeah like
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chronologically it goes catholic to
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catholicism to
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all the other ones yeah but yeah they
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did they broke off
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so that’s huge so basically now
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um england which is
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they had the king of england everything
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uh england’s now
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protestant and maybe not everyone’s
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protestant yet but now there’s like a
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push
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for you to be protestant in england
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because that’s like the king’s religion
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and so now you’re under
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the king and you follow the king’s form
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of christianity
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okay so
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then we will go into so that’s important
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to know is that
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ireland’s catholic and england was
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catholic but now
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england has broken off into these little
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forms of christianity called
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that or like protestantism we’ll call it
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protestants
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gotcha now to talk about like the actual
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border in ireland
0:11:20.000,0:11:24.800
we have to start with the 17th century
0:11:23.760,0:11:26.399
so there’s something called the
0:11:24.800,0:11:29.839
plantations of ulster
0:11:26.399,0:11:31.279
in the 17th century so that’s when the
0:11:29.839,0:11:34.079
border starts to begin
0:11:31.279,0:11:35.680
since the 12th century british had been
0:11:34.079,0:11:37.360
present in ireland like they’re just
0:11:35.680,0:11:39.040
doing trade they’re hanging out in
0:11:37.360,0:11:42.160
ireland anyways
0:11:39.040,0:11:44.640
and the english we’re doing
0:11:42.160,0:11:46.079
like their regular oppressive practices
0:11:44.640,0:11:48.399
as they’re while they’re present like
0:11:46.079,0:11:50.160
they’re always doing this i feel like
0:11:48.399,0:11:51.760
england just has a checklist like go to
0:11:50.160,0:11:56.160
a new place um
0:11:51.760,0:11:59.279
forbid marriage between the locals
0:11:56.160,0:12:01.519
their language so they did all of that
0:11:59.279,0:12:03.519
when they came to ireland and they’re
0:12:01.519,0:12:05.120
just living on the coast too it’s like
0:12:03.519,0:12:07.760
one or two people trying to do this
0:12:05.120,0:12:10.959
whole thing to like an entire country
0:12:07.760,0:12:13.680
and yeah they banned
0:12:10.959,0:12:15.120
gaelic irish which is actually like
0:12:13.680,0:12:18.399
native
0:12:15.120,0:12:21.360
language of irish people is gaelic
0:12:18.399,0:12:23.040
ulster is a province in ireland and it’s
0:12:21.360,0:12:24.079
the most gaelic irish province in
0:12:23.040,0:12:27.040
ireland
0:12:24.079,0:12:28.720
and basically there was a war between
0:12:27.040,0:12:33.120
protestant english
0:12:28.720,0:12:35.440
and the catholic lords in that area
0:12:33.120,0:12:36.639
and the protestant english ended up
0:12:35.440,0:12:40.160
defeating the catholic
0:12:36.639,0:12:43.040
like the irish catholics and
0:12:40.160,0:12:44.320
so then the irish lord the irish the
0:12:43.040,0:12:46.800
irish catholic lords
0:12:44.320,0:12:47.760
in that area fled and they left behind
0:12:46.800,0:12:49.760
the land
0:12:47.760,0:12:52.000
so the protestant settlers just took
0:12:49.760,0:12:53.519
over that land and those protestant
0:12:52.000,0:12:56.720
settlers were from scotland
0:12:53.519,0:13:00.480
and england and
0:12:56.720,0:13:02.639
they just settled in ulster so after
0:13:00.480,0:13:04.000
that war was fought okay does that make
0:13:02.639,0:13:08.320
sense you look confused
0:13:04.000,0:13:08.320
no but so wait this is ulcer
0:13:08.639,0:13:11.839
ulcers in the south or you said it was
0:13:10.800,0:13:14.880
east where
0:13:11.839,0:13:15.600
no dublin so okay the the english come
0:13:14.880,0:13:17.279
and they’re like
0:13:15.600,0:13:19.360
they settle in this area known as the
0:13:17.279,0:13:21.120
pale and like they didn’t experiment on
0:13:19.360,0:13:22.399
that but the pale is like on the east
0:13:21.120,0:13:23.120
coast so that’s just like they’ve
0:13:22.399,0:13:25.680
arrived
0:13:23.120,0:13:27.200
from like trades okay and then ulster is
0:13:25.680,0:13:31.040
oh i don’t even have my world map
0:13:27.200,0:13:32.839
but also ulster is like um
0:13:31.040,0:13:34.399
like a province in the north like
0:13:32.839,0:13:38.160
northeast okay
0:13:34.399,0:13:41.440
yeah and then right
0:13:38.160,0:13:43.279
in the north it’s not protestant yet
0:13:41.440,0:13:46.320
there’s like english settlers
0:13:43.279,0:13:48.079
and then ulster was still catholic
0:13:46.320,0:13:50.000
irish catholic but you have all these
0:13:48.079,0:13:50.720
english protestants that are settling
0:13:50.000,0:13:54.240
there
0:13:50.720,0:13:56.639
and then they had this war between them
0:13:54.240,0:13:57.760
yeah because you know the english are
0:13:56.639,0:13:59.920
like kind of
0:13:57.760,0:14:01.279
pushing them around and like taking land
0:13:59.920,0:14:02.720
and banning
0:14:01.279,0:14:05.600
or trying to ban these things and
0:14:02.720,0:14:07.600
enforce these laws and so
0:14:05.600,0:14:08.800
they have a they have a war and then the
0:14:07.600,0:14:11.440
irish catholics
0:14:08.800,0:14:12.240
lose the war and then they flee the area
0:14:11.440,0:14:14.959
and
0:14:12.240,0:14:16.160
the english protestants just take over
0:14:14.959,0:14:18.720
the area and like
0:14:16.160,0:14:19.760
claim it as theirs right they’re fleeing
0:14:18.720,0:14:23.279
the north area
0:14:19.760,0:14:26.079
so they’re going to okay that’s not
0:14:23.279,0:14:28.000
clear so they they did flee but i think
0:14:26.079,0:14:31.519
some things said that they split
0:14:28.000,0:14:34.560
they fleed they flew fled i think
0:14:31.519,0:14:36.240
they fled yes they fled to england or
0:14:34.560,0:14:38.480
they fled to the south either way
0:14:36.240,0:14:39.760
long story short they like left the area
0:14:38.480,0:14:42.720
like they’re gone
0:14:39.760,0:14:44.240
yeah so then that’s when they took over
0:14:42.720,0:14:47.279
the protestant english takeover
0:14:44.240,0:14:49.519
and then okay
0:14:47.279,0:14:52.720
so now there’s a lot of protestants in
0:14:49.519,0:14:55.839
that area of ulster
0:14:52.720,0:14:57.120
so although and it’s a province right so
0:14:55.839,0:14:59.279
the province is quite big
0:14:57.120,0:15:01.199
but although there are still some native
0:14:59.279,0:15:04.639
irish catholics in the area
0:15:01.199,0:15:06.720
now the province is now dominated by
0:15:04.639,0:15:08.800
protestants and the protestants are all
0:15:06.720,0:15:14.079
loyal to the british crown
0:15:08.800,0:15:15.920
okay so then we go to 1641
0:15:14.079,0:15:17.199
and we have something called the irish
0:15:15.920,0:15:19.600
confederate wars
0:15:17.199,0:15:20.639
so it’s a war between ireland scotland
0:15:19.600,0:15:22.800
and england
0:15:20.639,0:15:24.079
and i don’t know if this is clear i kind
0:15:22.800,0:15:26.079
of mentioned it but
0:15:24.079,0:15:28.639
uh the protestant settlers were actually
0:15:26.079,0:15:30.720
scottish and english
0:15:28.639,0:15:31.839
okay so keep that in mind too it’s
0:15:30.720,0:15:33.920
really irish is
0:15:31.839,0:15:35.600
the irish are still catholic but and i
0:15:33.920,0:15:38.160
don’t know the history of scotland but
0:15:35.600,0:15:40.240
it’s just from history it was scotland
0:15:38.160,0:15:41.120
and england together that were the
0:15:40.240,0:15:44.639
protestant
0:15:41.120,0:15:47.920
invaders um yeah
0:15:44.639,0:15:50.639
yeah so basically
0:15:47.920,0:15:52.399
1641 irish confederate wars between
0:15:50.639,0:15:54.320
ireland scotland and england
0:15:52.399,0:15:56.480
and it’s really scotland and england
0:15:54.320,0:15:58.399
together against ireland so ireland
0:15:56.480,0:16:01.440
tries to push back against the
0:15:58.399,0:16:05.120
anti-catholic protestant countries
0:16:01.440,0:16:07.839
scotland and um yeah england
0:16:05.120,0:16:08.560
the english end up winning that as well
0:16:07.839,0:16:11.519
again
0:16:08.560,0:16:14.480
and now the catholic majority ireland is
0:16:11.519,0:16:18.320
run by a protestant minority
0:16:14.480,0:16:21.440
okay sounds a lot like the states
0:16:18.320,0:16:24.639
yeah yeah so
0:16:21.440,0:16:26.800
so then we’ll go to 1798 there’s
0:16:24.639,0:16:30.079
something known as the irish rebellion
0:16:26.800,0:16:31.600
so this was inspired by the french and
0:16:30.079,0:16:33.759
american revolutions
0:16:31.600,0:16:36.959
and it was an uprising of the irish
0:16:33.759,0:16:38.560
against british rule in ireland
0:16:36.959,0:16:40.399
but then the french tried to help the
0:16:38.560,0:16:43.600
irish in the uprising
0:16:40.399,0:16:45.360
and again the uprising was suppressed by
0:16:43.600,0:16:48.240
the british crown so the irish
0:16:45.360,0:16:48.880
lost it was really really violent too so
0:16:48.240,0:16:52.000
they lost
0:16:48.880,0:16:55.440
10 000 to 30 000 lives
0:16:52.000,0:16:57.440
wow that’s a that’s a lot
0:16:55.440,0:16:59.120
and i’m sure like the population is like
0:16:57.440,0:17:02.399
really tiny at the time
0:16:59.120,0:17:05.600
yeah oh then that happens in 1781
0:17:02.399,0:17:08.079
again it’s still protestant english
0:17:05.600,0:17:09.520
rural ireland and then we have the
0:17:08.079,0:17:13.520
active union in
0:17:09.520,0:17:14.720
1800s so in the in the year 1800 the
0:17:13.520,0:17:17.199
united kingdom
0:17:14.720,0:17:19.439
which at the time just consisted of
0:17:17.199,0:17:21.360
england and scotland
0:17:19.439,0:17:24.720
because i don’t know are you familiar
0:17:21.360,0:17:28.559
with like the history of the uk
0:17:24.720,0:17:32.240
um no i’d say like isn’t just the uk
0:17:28.559,0:17:36.640
scotland part of ireland and then
0:17:32.240,0:17:39.120
wales is whales in the uk yeah it’s like
0:17:36.640,0:17:40.240
is england not in no england just okay
0:17:39.120,0:17:42.400
england yeah it’s like
0:17:40.240,0:17:43.600
england scotland part of ireland and
0:17:42.400,0:17:46.080
then
0:17:43.600,0:17:47.919
wales yeah i didn’t know what it was
0:17:46.080,0:17:49.520
either but like the
0:17:47.919,0:17:51.280
when i was doing research they showed
0:17:49.520,0:17:54.640
the animation of
0:17:51.280,0:17:56.480
each part joining the uk so it was
0:17:54.640,0:17:59.280
england and then the first country to
0:17:56.480,0:18:02.320
join england and form the uk was
0:17:59.280,0:18:06.720
scotland so
0:18:02.320,0:18:09.360
uh sure um so 1800’s
0:18:06.720,0:18:11.120
uk has been formed and now they’re
0:18:09.360,0:18:11.440
concerned that ireland is going to break
0:18:11.120,0:18:13.440
off
0:18:11.440,0:18:14.480
and join with france in fighting against
0:18:13.440,0:18:16.960
the british again
0:18:14.480,0:18:19.520
because this is only two years after the
0:18:16.960,0:18:23.200
irish rebellion
0:18:19.520,0:18:26.960
so because of this fear the uk absorbs
0:18:23.200,0:18:30.640
ireland into them as well in the active
0:18:26.960,0:18:32.799
union 1800 or 1801 it’s called vote
0:18:30.640,0:18:34.559
um so there’s a lot of opposition to
0:18:32.799,0:18:37.039
this obviously
0:18:34.559,0:18:39.919
and throughout the 1800s there was
0:18:37.039,0:18:42.480
horizon violent rebellions to oppose it
0:18:39.919,0:18:45.120
and demand self-governing
0:18:42.480,0:18:46.400
wow okay so this is like sorry i’m like
0:18:45.120,0:18:47.200
just trying to like think about it this
0:18:46.400,0:18:50.000
is like a big
0:18:47.200,0:18:50.480
a really big deal because at this time
0:18:50.000,0:18:53.280
like
0:18:50.480,0:18:54.799
britain has colonies all over the world
0:18:53.280,0:18:56.000
but then that’s just considered like the
0:18:54.799,0:18:58.400
british empire
0:18:56.000,0:18:59.039
but the fact that ireland was acquired
0:18:58.400,0:19:01.360
into the
0:18:59.039,0:19:02.559
united kingdom that’s saying like you’re
0:19:01.360,0:19:05.760
not just a colony
0:19:02.559,0:19:08.799
you’re like one of us
0:19:05.760,0:19:10.160
you’re the united kingdom so right like
0:19:08.799,0:19:12.960
that’s a lot more significant
0:19:10.160,0:19:14.080
than just having them as a part of the
0:19:12.960,0:19:17.600
empire
0:19:14.080,0:19:19.200
right yeah well how do the empires work
0:19:17.600,0:19:20.720
though because
0:19:19.200,0:19:22.400
like even though they’re they didn’t
0:19:20.720,0:19:25.600
absorb them into the uk
0:19:22.400,0:19:28.080
it’s still like territory and
0:19:25.600,0:19:29.120
rule i think that’s just known as like
0:19:28.080,0:19:30.799
great britain then
0:19:29.120,0:19:32.559
right like because there’s like there’s
0:19:30.799,0:19:33.039
so many terms oh my god it’s like united
0:19:32.559,0:19:34.720
kingdom
0:19:33.039,0:19:36.400
great britain and then england england
0:19:34.720,0:19:37.440
is just like the country i think great
0:19:36.400,0:19:38.880
britain is like
0:19:37.440,0:19:40.640
the whole british empire all the
0:19:38.880,0:19:41.679
colonies they have and then the united
0:19:40.640,0:19:45.600
kingdom
0:19:41.679,0:19:48.559
is just like those few oh
0:19:45.600,0:19:50.880
that they’re like okay but this is like
0:19:48.559,0:19:53.919
that makes so much more sense
0:19:50.880,0:19:55.760
okay i was using england uk
0:19:53.919,0:19:57.440
and great britain all interchangeably
0:19:55.760,0:19:58.080
but that makes so much sense because
0:19:57.440,0:20:01.200
great britain
0:19:58.080,0:20:02.720
is like the great like everything and
0:20:01.200,0:20:05.280
then kingdom is like
0:20:02.720,0:20:06.480
texas but i’m pretty sure okay yeah i’ll
0:20:05.280,0:20:08.559
look into that too i
0:20:06.480,0:20:10.640
never knew i i just called them all the
0:20:08.559,0:20:13.919
same thing
0:20:10.640,0:20:15.919
okay well yeah it’s a pretty big deal so
0:20:13.919,0:20:18.960
ireland is now part of the uk
0:20:15.919,0:20:20.000
okay and uh yeah they’re not having a
0:20:18.960,0:20:22.640
good time they don’t like
0:20:20.000,0:20:23.679
it and well i shouldn’t say that
0:20:22.640,0:20:27.679
northern ireland’s
0:20:23.679,0:20:29.679
having a ball ulster protestant english
0:20:27.679,0:20:31.600
and then the rest of ireland not really
0:20:29.679,0:20:38.080
liking it so
0:20:31.600,0:20:41.039
then in 1920 the official border happens
0:20:38.080,0:20:42.080
under the government of ireland act the
0:20:41.039,0:20:44.000
british government
0:20:42.080,0:20:45.840
made an attempt to reconcile the two
0:20:44.000,0:20:48.480
demands of both areas of ireland
0:20:45.840,0:20:49.120
because north part of ireland which is
0:20:48.480,0:20:50.720
also
0:20:49.120,0:20:52.720
well not just ulster but the north part
0:20:50.720,0:20:54.159
of ireland is like protestant and the
0:20:52.720,0:20:56.000
south part is catholic
0:20:54.159,0:20:57.919
and there’s all these fights and
0:20:56.000,0:21:01.280
uprisings and rebellions and
0:20:57.919,0:21:02.640
civil wars trying to like push for
0:21:01.280,0:21:06.159
independent rule so
0:21:02.640,0:21:09.039
to reconcile the demands they
0:21:06.159,0:21:10.320
create a partition between the parts of
0:21:09.039,0:21:13.039
ireland
0:21:10.320,0:21:14.720
so the irish nationalist which is known
0:21:13.039,0:21:17.520
as southern ireland demands
0:21:14.720,0:21:18.960
for the separation of ireland from
0:21:17.520,0:21:19.360
britain so they don’t want to be a part
0:21:18.960,0:21:21.280
of
0:21:19.360,0:21:22.480
the uk they don’t want to be associated
0:21:21.280,0:21:24.159
with britain
0:21:22.480,0:21:26.240
like they just want to be ireland and
0:21:24.159,0:21:27.440
then the unionist which is the northern
0:21:26.240,0:21:29.360
part of ireland
0:21:27.440,0:21:30.480
demands to remain part of the united
0:21:29.360,0:21:32.880
kingdom so they
0:21:30.480,0:21:33.760
they want to be a part of the uk they
0:21:32.880,0:21:37.039
like it
0:21:33.760,0:21:38.960
and they’re in conflict
0:21:37.039,0:21:41.039
okay oh wait okay i have two questions
0:21:38.960,0:21:42.320
really quick okay first
0:21:41.039,0:21:44.240
this is like a stupid question this
0:21:42.320,0:21:45.679
partition is it just like
0:21:44.240,0:21:47.919
invisible is there like a physical
0:21:45.679,0:21:50.000
structure that’s actually like is there
0:21:47.919,0:21:52.080
a wall or like a fence or something or
0:21:50.000,0:21:56.000
is it just like
0:21:52.080,0:21:57.520
no so uh
0:21:56.000,0:22:00.000
you’re asking a good question there’s
0:21:57.520,0:22:03.039
not i’m sure there’s like a gate
0:22:00.000,0:22:04.960
maybe but it’s not like a physical wall
0:22:03.039,0:22:05.360
yet but in northern ireland which i’ll
0:22:04.960,0:22:08.080
get to
0:22:05.360,0:22:08.720
later is like there’s actually walls
0:22:08.080,0:22:11.919
between
0:22:08.720,0:22:13.360
protestant and catholics like they build
0:22:11.919,0:22:14.799
they’re called peace walls but they
0:22:13.360,0:22:16.240
literally build them separating the
0:22:14.799,0:22:17.039
neighborhoods because there’s so much
0:22:16.240,0:22:20.480
violence
0:22:17.039,0:22:21.360
like it’s really bad um and then but
0:22:20.480,0:22:23.520
between like
0:22:21.360,0:22:25.520
the partition that we’re talking about
0:22:23.520,0:22:26.880
where there’s an official border now
0:22:25.520,0:22:28.799
i don’t know if they built an actual
0:22:26.880,0:22:31.360
wall for that yeah
0:22:28.799,0:22:32.799
okay yeah okay probably yeah i’m
0:22:31.360,0:22:34.320
guessing there’s not like a
0:22:32.799,0:22:36.880
yeah along the entire border but
0:22:34.320,0:22:39.919
probably around parts but maybe because
0:22:36.880,0:22:41.600
it’s not a huge island so that’s true
0:22:39.919,0:22:42.000
and if they hate each other that much
0:22:41.600,0:22:44.240
like
0:22:42.000,0:22:46.240
yeah if it gets that violent then yeah
0:22:44.240,0:22:48.000
and then okay like this my second it’s
0:22:46.240,0:22:49.280
mostly like just a remark but like i
0:22:48.000,0:22:51.840
guess
0:22:49.280,0:22:53.200
so like in 1920 this is like after world
0:22:51.840,0:22:56.960
war one
0:22:53.200,0:22:57.760
so like the whole everyone in ireland
0:22:56.960,0:23:00.000
probably had to
0:22:57.760,0:23:01.120
fight world war one under the british
0:23:00.000,0:23:04.480
flag so i’m sure
0:23:01.120,0:23:06.799
that’s like kind of what caused
0:23:04.480,0:23:09.600
uh like the this is what really like
0:23:06.799,0:23:11.039
flared the argument into
0:23:09.600,0:23:12.559
like people actually like declaring
0:23:11.039,0:23:13.440
themselves as like unit versus
0:23:12.559,0:23:15.840
nationalists
0:23:13.440,0:23:16.559
right am i that’s just like no you are
0:23:15.840,0:23:18.640
literally
0:23:16.559,0:23:20.240
spot on like you really know your
0:23:18.640,0:23:23.679
history because
0:23:20.240,0:23:25.120
that’s exactly like what happened okay
0:23:23.679,0:23:28.240
i’m just gonna go right into it
0:23:25.120,0:23:29.840
so in 1922 we
0:23:28.240,0:23:31.600
there was the irish free state
0:23:29.840,0:23:34.240
constitution act
0:23:31.600,0:23:35.120
and that established that island was a
0:23:34.240,0:23:36.799
free state
0:23:35.120,0:23:38.640
but a dominion of the british
0:23:36.799,0:23:41.919
commonwealth so that
0:23:38.640,0:23:43.039
is like canada australia new zealand
0:23:41.919,0:23:45.360
south africa
0:23:43.039,0:23:48.320
they’re their own country but they also
0:23:45.360,0:23:51.039
the queen is technically their queen too
0:23:48.320,0:23:52.320
yeah okay i don’t know how it works
0:23:51.039,0:23:55.520
because we’re american
0:23:52.320,0:23:57.919
of like u.s territories
0:23:55.520,0:24:00.000
like we talked about in our minisones
0:23:57.919,0:24:02.240
where they have their
0:24:00.000,0:24:03.039
own local governments but then they’re
0:24:02.240,0:24:04.799
under the
0:24:03.039,0:24:08.480
ultimate jurisdiction of the president
0:24:04.799,0:24:12.080
of the united states kind of similar
0:24:08.480,0:24:15.200
but yeah okay and so yeah
0:24:12.080,0:24:16.480
ireland ireland becomes one of those in
0:24:15.200,0:24:18.480
this treaty
0:24:16.480,0:24:20.000
or is it a treaty in the irish free
0:24:18.480,0:24:23.200
state constitution act
0:24:20.000,0:24:26.000
they gave the north part of ireland a
0:24:23.200,0:24:28.480
clause that allowed them to opt out of
0:24:26.000,0:24:30.240
the agreement and stay part of the uk
0:24:28.480,0:24:32.799
and they took that immediately like they
0:24:30.240,0:24:35.919
were yes opt me out i don’t want to be
0:24:32.799,0:24:37.919
like i want to be part of the uk so
0:24:35.919,0:24:39.760
now there are two british parliaments
0:24:37.919,0:24:41.440
because of this there’s one in dublin
0:24:39.760,0:24:44.559
for the south and then there’s one
0:24:41.440,0:24:47.279
in belfast for the north
0:24:44.559,0:24:49.600
and some of the people in the south are
0:24:47.279,0:24:52.080
okay with the treaty because
0:24:49.600,0:24:54.159
it’s they’re an irish free state so
0:24:52.080,0:24:56.080
they’re like wow like we’re
0:24:54.159,0:24:57.440
we’re free we’re irish we’re like
0:24:56.080,0:24:59.120
independent and
0:24:57.440,0:25:01.360
other people are against the treaty
0:24:59.120,0:25:03.679
because they’re like no we’re still
0:25:01.360,0:25:04.400
under the british crown we’re like a
0:25:03.679,0:25:06.640
formerly
0:25:04.400,0:25:07.919
a territory you know like we don’t like
0:25:06.640,0:25:09.840
it it’s not good enough we want to be
0:25:07.919,0:25:14.720
fully independent
0:25:09.840,0:25:15.200
so that leads to a civil war oh also too
0:25:14.720,0:25:17.679
so
0:25:15.200,0:25:19.679
and also people who are anti-treaty felt
0:25:17.679,0:25:22.080
that no we’re also entitled to
0:25:19.679,0:25:23.840
the whole country of ireland not just a
0:25:22.080,0:25:24.799
part of it like northern ireland is ours
0:25:23.840,0:25:26.640
as well
0:25:24.799,0:25:28.320
oh so that’s okay so as the nationalists
0:25:26.640,0:25:31.919
they’re not just like oh
0:25:28.320,0:25:33.760
like southern ireland will secede
0:25:31.919,0:25:35.440
from like the uk like will be our own
0:25:33.760,0:25:38.559
thing they want everyone
0:25:35.440,0:25:40.720
in the whole island to yeah so i mean
0:25:38.559,0:25:42.080
because it but right the south has like
0:25:40.720,0:25:43.440
split ideas too right
0:25:42.080,0:25:45.360
some of the south people are like it’s
0:25:43.440,0:25:47.279
cool it’s fine
0:25:45.360,0:25:49.440
like everything’s fine and then like
0:25:47.279,0:25:52.159
we’re free and the other part is like
0:25:49.440,0:25:53.840
no we get all of it i’m sure within that
0:25:52.159,0:25:55.360
there’s arguments too like no maybe we
0:25:53.840,0:25:56.559
don’t get all of it but like no we don’t
0:25:55.360,0:25:58.480
want to be a part of
0:25:56.559,0:25:59.760
like a free state anyways it should just
0:25:58.480,0:26:01.840
be independent
0:25:59.760,0:26:03.679
um so obviously there’s differing
0:26:01.840,0:26:07.440
opinions on
0:26:03.679,0:26:09.679
the treaty gotcha but that
0:26:07.440,0:26:12.159
disagreement led to a civil war in the
0:26:09.679,0:26:14.960
south which was pro and anti-treaty
0:26:12.159,0:26:16.400
the pro-treaty side wins and solidifies
0:26:14.960,0:26:19.360
the irish free state as
0:26:16.400,0:26:19.360
british dominion
0:26:19.440,0:26:26.880
so then in 1937
0:26:23.840,0:26:29.440
there they held a vote in
0:26:26.880,0:26:31.440
i think south ireland so in 1937 a vote
0:26:29.440,0:26:34.159
was held for a new constitution
0:26:31.440,0:26:35.840
to remove all british ties from ireland
0:26:34.159,0:26:37.760
and 56 percent
0:26:35.840,0:26:39.679
of people who voted in that were in
0:26:37.760,0:26:42.159
favor of the new constitution
0:26:39.679,0:26:44.559
and renaming the country to ireland or
0:26:42.159,0:26:47.200
the republic of ireland to differentiate
0:26:44.559,0:26:50.400
itself from the island ireland
0:26:47.200,0:26:52.960
and so
0:26:50.400,0:26:53.600
south of ireland is all cool they’re
0:26:52.960,0:26:56.400
like yeah
0:26:53.600,0:26:58.000
let’s remove like all british ties and
0:26:56.400,0:27:00.799
because they removed
0:26:58.000,0:27:02.400
their british ties from it or because
0:27:00.799,0:27:04.000
like you mentioned the war right and
0:27:02.400,0:27:07.120
like how they had to fight under the
0:27:04.000,0:27:09.600
crown so after this constitution passed
0:27:07.120,0:27:11.840
ireland’s now its own country and they
0:27:09.600,0:27:13.600
used that to exercise their right to
0:27:11.840,0:27:17.440
remain neutral in world war
0:27:13.600,0:27:20.399
ii oh okay yeah
0:27:17.440,0:27:22.000
so anyways south island is peachy keen
0:27:20.399,0:27:24.480
it’s just ireland now
0:27:22.000,0:27:26.000
and now we go to northern ireland
0:27:24.480,0:27:27.679
because remember there are still irish
0:27:26.000,0:27:30.480
catholics in northern ireland
0:27:27.679,0:27:31.520
so then we enter a time period known as
0:27:30.480,0:27:35.279
the troubles
0:27:31.520,0:27:37.679
so this started in 1969 and it was
0:27:35.279,0:27:38.320
like a lot of violence in northern
0:27:37.679,0:27:41.360
ireland
0:27:38.320,0:27:42.640
ireland in 1969 violence broke out in
0:27:41.360,0:27:44.720
northern ireland
0:27:42.640,0:27:46.720
because although a majority of northern
0:27:44.720,0:27:48.559
ireland is protestant there is still a
0:27:46.720,0:27:50.080
minority of irish catholics and
0:27:48.559,0:27:52.399
nationalists
0:27:50.080,0:27:53.919
so the catholic minority surprise
0:27:52.399,0:27:56.240
surprise
0:27:53.919,0:27:58.320
not really it’s not a surprise um they
0:27:56.240,0:27:58.880
were subjected to discrimination when it
0:27:58.320,0:28:01.679
came to
0:27:58.880,0:28:03.840
employment housing and education like
0:28:01.679,0:28:08.399
routine british oppression
0:28:03.840,0:28:11.600
we we know the story as americans and
0:28:08.399,0:28:13.679
the result um of that was
0:28:11.600,0:28:15.279
violent conflict for three decades
0:28:13.679,0:28:16.720
between the irish
0:28:15.279,0:28:19.520
and the british catholics and
0:28:16.720,0:28:22.559
protestants wow three decades
0:28:19.520,0:28:24.960
oh yeah it was very bad and uh
0:28:22.559,0:28:26.640
like we just said a little earlier the
0:28:24.960,0:28:29.039
like physical it was so bad that
0:28:26.640,0:28:30.240
physical walls got put up between
0:28:29.039,0:28:31.919
neighborhoods
0:28:30.240,0:28:34.399
because separating catholics and
0:28:31.919,0:28:37.760
protestants because the violence was
0:28:34.399,0:28:41.039
very bad it was actually quote unquote
0:28:37.760,0:28:42.480
um spoken about as mild warfare like
0:28:41.039,0:28:44.960
that’s how bad it was maybe not like a
0:28:42.480,0:28:46.960
full-on war but like bullets are going
0:28:44.960,0:28:50.240
off and everything
0:28:46.960,0:28:53.279
wow that’s crazy
0:28:50.240,0:28:54.960
it’s bad actually yeah okay this is just
0:28:53.279,0:28:56.320
i guess i know but i was gonna take a
0:28:54.960,0:28:58.720
class on terrorism
0:28:56.320,0:29:00.080
at osu and i was like so i was like
0:28:58.720,0:29:02.159
reading the description and it was like
0:29:00.080,0:29:03.440
focusing on ireland and i remember
0:29:02.159,0:29:06.799
reading it being like
0:29:03.440,0:29:08.640
terrorism in ireland and then i get it
0:29:06.799,0:29:10.720
but it’s like just not something you
0:29:08.640,0:29:12.880
would think of i guess
0:29:10.720,0:29:14.640
yeah no i was surprised because i was
0:29:12.880,0:29:15.120
like i wonder why ireland’s separate and
0:29:14.640,0:29:17.360
it’s a
0:29:15.120,0:29:18.559
big deal this has been this has lasted
0:29:17.360,0:29:20.799
since
0:29:18.559,0:29:21.840
like the english have come to ireland
0:29:20.799,0:29:25.679
they’ve been having
0:29:21.840,0:29:29.600
this issue right it’s still ongoing
0:29:25.679,0:29:32.960
so that you know the violence
0:29:29.600,0:29:37.200
lasts until 1995 so it’s literally
0:29:32.960,0:29:40.399
like 25 years long and 3 500
0:29:37.200,0:29:44.240
people lose their lives wow
0:29:40.399,0:29:46.080
so to end the troubles there
0:29:44.240,0:29:48.080
or the troubles was resolved through the
0:29:46.080,0:29:51.520
signing of the good friday agreement
0:29:48.080,0:29:55.039
also known as the belfast agreement
0:29:51.520,0:29:56.960
and ireland okay so what what it said in
0:29:55.039,0:29:59.120
this like agreement was that ireland has
0:29:56.960,0:29:59.760
to remove their claim over northern
0:29:59.120,0:30:02.159
ireland
0:29:59.760,0:30:03.520
because their constitution was like yeah
0:30:02.159,0:30:06.080
we’re independent and
0:30:03.520,0:30:07.840
we get all of ireland and so that’s why
0:30:06.080,0:30:08.880
there’s a lot of conflict too because
0:30:07.840,0:30:11.679
the nationalists are like
0:30:08.880,0:30:12.399
no like we’re this is all ireland and
0:30:11.679,0:30:14.559
then
0:30:12.399,0:30:15.840
the protestants are like no like we’re
0:30:14.559,0:30:18.480
the uk
0:30:15.840,0:30:20.240
you know and so ireland has to remove
0:30:18.480,0:30:22.240
their claim over northern ireland
0:30:20.240,0:30:23.360
in the constitution and the british and
0:30:22.240,0:30:26.720
irish governments
0:30:23.360,0:30:29.520
agreed that if the time comes that
0:30:26.720,0:30:31.200
the majority of northern ireland ever
0:30:29.520,0:30:33.279
wants to break off
0:30:31.200,0:30:34.399
and become independent or rejoin
0:30:33.279,0:30:36.720
southern ireland
0:30:34.399,0:30:38.159
then it will be allowed to do so like
0:30:36.720,0:30:42.080
peacefully
0:30:38.159,0:30:42.799
okay yeah cool yeah i know it’s a good
0:30:42.080,0:30:44.559
resolution
0:30:42.799,0:30:46.240
granted i don’t know if that’s ever
0:30:44.559,0:30:47.520
gonna happen since the majority is
0:30:46.240,0:30:50.559
protestant
0:30:47.520,0:30:52.159
um so basically northern ireland is not
0:30:50.559,0:30:53.600
going to become a part of ireland until
0:30:52.159,0:30:56.159
a majority decide to
0:30:53.600,0:30:57.919
and it has kept the peace so far between
0:30:56.159,0:31:00.000
the regions there hasn’t been
0:30:57.919,0:31:02.080
there’s still mild violence and conflict
0:31:00.000,0:31:05.279
between the two but it’s not as bad as
0:31:02.080,0:31:06.799
it was during the troubles era okay oh
0:31:05.279,0:31:08.240
so okay i don’t know if you’re like
0:31:06.799,0:31:11.039
about to talk about this but are you
0:31:08.240,0:31:12.720
gonna talk about brexit at any point
0:31:11.039,0:31:14.480
that’s a good question i was i had a
0:31:12.720,0:31:15.120
feeling you’re gonna ask about brexit do
0:31:14.480,0:31:17.200
you
0:31:15.120,0:31:19.360
like do you have questions on it yeah
0:31:17.200,0:31:22.000
because i’m just confused because i know
0:31:19.360,0:31:26.000
there was a lot of confusion when
0:31:22.000,0:31:28.720
england originally voted to um
0:31:26.000,0:31:30.559
to remove themselves from the european
0:31:28.720,0:31:34.320
union right because then it was like
0:31:30.559,0:31:35.840
oh northern ire would northern ireland
0:31:34.320,0:31:37.440
go with them and then like would
0:31:35.840,0:31:38.960
scotland go with them
0:31:37.440,0:31:41.120
and then i think in like the rest of the
0:31:38.960,0:31:42.559
uk like is it just england or is it all
0:31:41.120,0:31:46.240
of the uk
0:31:42.559,0:31:48.399
um and then i think oh
0:31:46.240,0:31:49.760
i would try to check this but i think
0:31:48.399,0:31:52.080
also like scotland
0:31:49.760,0:31:54.399
they had a vote to see if they wanted to
0:31:52.080,0:31:57.360
uh remove themselves from the uk
0:31:54.399,0:31:58.240
but then it was like it was like 55 or
0:31:57.360,0:32:00.159
like 45
0:31:58.240,0:32:02.240
but basically they voted to stay in the
0:32:00.159,0:32:03.760
uk so i think
0:32:02.240,0:32:06.159
they’re no longer part of the european
0:32:03.760,0:32:07.519
union but honestly i don’t know brexit
0:32:06.159,0:32:09.120
is very confusing
0:32:07.519,0:32:11.039
and europe is really not like my
0:32:09.120,0:32:13.039
fortitude yeah
0:32:11.039,0:32:14.640
no i didn’t i tried to look a little
0:32:13.039,0:32:16.240
into brexit with it because i didn’t
0:32:14.640,0:32:18.080
understand what that was about
0:32:16.240,0:32:19.360
but it really what i got from the
0:32:18.080,0:32:22.080
research was
0:32:19.360,0:32:24.240
yeah like england wanted to remove
0:32:22.080,0:32:25.760
themselves from the european or uk
0:32:24.240,0:32:28.320
the uk wanted to remove themselves from
0:32:25.760,0:32:30.960
the european union and
0:32:28.320,0:32:31.919
the main concerns with that with ireland
0:32:30.960,0:32:33.760
is because
0:32:31.919,0:32:35.919
like right now it’s a soft border
0:32:33.760,0:32:37.039
between northern ireland and southern
0:32:35.919,0:32:39.360
ireland but
0:32:37.039,0:32:41.440
if you were to leave that’s a hard
0:32:39.360,0:32:44.000
border now because it it’s not just
0:32:41.440,0:32:46.480
a border between ireland and the uk it’s
0:32:44.000,0:32:48.080
a border between like the eu
0:32:46.480,0:32:50.720
and then this country that’s not a part
0:32:48.080,0:32:53.200
of it you would need a visa right
0:32:50.720,0:32:54.320
to like go because like you’re not like
0:32:53.200,0:32:56.480
if you have a
0:32:54.320,0:32:58.799
eu visa then you could just travel
0:32:56.480,0:33:01.440
freely freely to any eu country
0:32:58.799,0:33:03.519
but if there’s a hard border there half
0:33:01.440,0:33:05.039
of it is in the eu half of it isn’t like
0:33:03.519,0:33:06.240
yeah then you would i mean
0:33:05.039,0:33:07.279
i don’t know if that actually happened
0:33:06.240,0:33:09.519
but like yeah you’re right like
0:33:07.279,0:33:12.080
immigration would be like restricted
0:33:09.519,0:33:13.919
or like it’d be filtered you know also
0:33:12.080,0:33:16.480
don’t they have different currencies
0:33:13.919,0:33:17.200
like yeah the eu has the same currencies
0:33:16.480,0:33:19.679
and then
0:33:17.200,0:33:20.720
but then again do they we have to ask a
0:33:19.679,0:33:23.440
european friend
0:33:20.720,0:33:24.080
because i’m pretty sure isn’t sweden in
0:33:23.440,0:33:28.240
the eu
0:33:24.080,0:33:30.320
they are aren’t they um
0:33:28.240,0:33:32.080
i i don’t think so actually oh okay
0:33:30.320,0:33:33.200
never mind that because sweden uses they
0:33:32.080,0:33:36.159
don’t use like
0:33:33.200,0:33:37.200
the same do they use the pound in the eu
0:33:36.159,0:33:39.600
i’m gonna
0:33:37.200,0:33:41.039
i’m gonna look up i’m gonna pick up
0:33:39.600,0:33:43.600
ireland currency
0:33:41.039,0:33:46.000
and then i’m gonna look up who’s in the
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eat you
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like is sweden let me see okay sorry i
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think you cut out for a second
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sorry european union country
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yeah swedenborg but sweden doesn’t use
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the same
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currency what is uh
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um okay so the republic of ireland is
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the euro
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and then northern ireland they use the
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british pound
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did the uk already split
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yeah didn’t brexit like already happen
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yeah
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so i can’t believe that you
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i think so oh no it says
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the you oh the uk has left the eu and
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the transition period
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after brexit comes to an end this year
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in january 2020.
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so why are they wow so i wonder what’s
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going on with ireland
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to our irish viewers please let us know
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what’s up
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send us a message at how did we not know
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that
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gmail.com let us know how you’re doing
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and what what’s going on over there
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what’s it like do you do you need a visa
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to go to northern ireland
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yeah that was a good question and
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basically yeah i talked about yeah signs
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of the conflict can still be seen today
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especially in belfast and uh
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yeah there are physical walls separating
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the communities
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and there’s still occasional violence
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but the government has a goal to remove
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all of these so-called peace walls
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by 2023. wow
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okay interesting i also okay just
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another remark i was just
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like thinking about i wonder for the
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brexit vote
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i i’d be really interested to see what
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the breakdown was like what each
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region and like um what each
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like country within the uk like voted
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for like i wonder if like ireland
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voted like strongly in favor or against
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it compared to like yeah i wonder if
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like the vote percentage is
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like differed between
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like england ireland scotland rails
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that’d be really interesting
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yeah let me see i will see if it breaks
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down yeah it does break down
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okay so the
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wow this is so interesting i never
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understood it and now
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i’m like okay that’s what’s going on so
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england
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wow it was very close well okay scotland
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um basically so england voted to leave
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by 53 percent so close
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northern ireland voted to stay by 55
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percent
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super close as well scotland voted to
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stay
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for 62 percent and then wales voted to
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leave for 52
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wow so it’s really close all
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wow those like aren’t really big margins
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you know
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yeah it’s very close just scotland’s
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like okay
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it’s pretty clear you want to stay but
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they lost still
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because most people wanted to leave
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after that then they had to vote like oh
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should we stay in the uk
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and then they were like yeah let’s stay
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in the uk but then that vote was also
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like very slim
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yeah wow that’s so interesting
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yeah i like never realized how
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yeah the history of the uk was the
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history of the uk is
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a lot there’s a lot of stuff i have a
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bias
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towards european history but i’m going
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to like challenge myself in season two
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to become more aware and more informed
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of
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the history oh that’s nice i’m not
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printing press i’m done that was enough
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european history
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that’s true but i guess like okay here’s
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the thing it’s like even when we talked
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about european history
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in you like in the us in history class
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and high school
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like i feel like we didn’t talk about
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this like
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like uh just how the british came into
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ireland
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and like how there’s this huge division
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and we didn’t like talk about like
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minority voices
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within the uk so i think true also
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that’s really good to know
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because for our viewers who aren’t aware
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or even our american viewers
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anytime you want to talk about racism in
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the states
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there’s always a white irish person
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irish-american person who says
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look at how the irish were treated and
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this shows you
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right now if you look into the history
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of ireland that
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the discrimination against irish was not
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because they’re white
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it’s because they were catholic so next
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time you hear someone say that you can
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say
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it’s catholics versus protestants
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because for people who don’t know about
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the history of the united states if you
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missed
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season one um the
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i guess biggest bullies in american
0:38:42.560,0:38:47.680
history are the protestant
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english that came over well yeah and
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like that’s the whole thing is like even
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irish catholics in america were like
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discriminated against
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when they first came like you can’t
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argue against that there’s a lot of
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discrimination
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however like yes irish catholics
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in the us were paid less than american
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like them protestant christians in the
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us
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but they were still paid more than
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people of color within the u.s
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and then once irish catholics started
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unionizing
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they did not include people of color
0:39:19.760,0:39:23.040
in their union protests and yeah they
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like
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so right there is intersectionality
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between oppressions right it’s like
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muslims who come to the states
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especially from african countries
0:39:32.320,0:39:35.599
you’re discriminated on religion you’re
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discriminated against by
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color you’re discriminated against by
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gender if you identify as transgender or
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you
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are female yeah like which country
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you’re coming from like which continent
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like yeah i know it’s like
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there’s a lot of different degrees and
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like
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various layers yeah but yeah that that’s
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the partition of ireland
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wow that’s really interesting um i
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really had no idea how intense their
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history was so i’m really glad
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we learned about that and now i got to
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pay attention
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to what’s going on in ireland like today
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i really know nothing about
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it so yeah thank you so much jack for
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sharing this and for starting off season
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two i’m so excited for the rest of
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season two
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yes of course yes bye
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