The Night Witches of WW2

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Show Notes

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hello everybody and welcome back to

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another episode of how did we not know

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that

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i’m nat i’m jack

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and today jack has a super interesting

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topic to discuss

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a special episode so we’re doing a

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special bonus episode chosen by our

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friends

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over at women of her story women of her

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story

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is a podcast that focuses on important

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women in history that

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often go overlooked but they do a really

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good job of bringing those stories to

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light so i

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really encourage you guys to check that

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out if you’re interested

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alright so today’s topic is on the night

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which is a world war

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ii this was specifically chosen by the

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women of her story podcast

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so let’s just get right into it the

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night witches were an all-female

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a 588th night bomber regiment from the

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soviet union

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they were so feared and hated by the

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nazis that if a german airman could take

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one of them down

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then they were automatically awarded the

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prestigious iron cross medal

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just similar to the purple heart for us

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yeah yeah yeah yeah it’s a very high

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honor for germans i believe

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wow um yeah so they’re very feared so

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this is their story

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so the night witches dropped more than

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23

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000 tons of bombs on nazi targets and in

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doing so

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we’re a very crucial soviet asset to

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winning the war

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and for those of you who don’t know the

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soviets and the

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americans ended up teaming up as well so

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this is

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really cool to hear about um the types

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of regiments inside the soviet union’s

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army because we did end up becoming

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allies in order to defeat the nazis for

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world war ii

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so the germans gave them the nickname of

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night witches

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because of the whooshing noise that

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their wooden planes made

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resembled a sweeping broom so that

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whooshing noise

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was the only warning germans had because

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the planes were so

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small that they never used radios and so

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they wouldn’t show up on any of their

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radars

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oh my gosh very stealthy

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yeah spooky and they didn’t have lights

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on the planes i’ll get into it but their

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planes were very ill-equipped

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so they’re they’re just like flying dark

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basically and they can’t

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you can’t see them like no one can see

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them they probably can’t even see you

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themselves like that does not suck

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yeah it wasn’t that safe but they did a

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good job

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in june 1941 adolf hitler launched

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operation barbarossa which was a massive

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invasion of the soviet union

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by the fall of that year the germans

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were successfully pressing on moscow

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which is

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is that the capital of russia yeah it’s

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the capital of russia

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okay so the soviets were desperate but

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on june 28

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1942 the night witches had their first

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mission to bomb

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the headquarters of the invading nazis

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and that was a success

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so going back to the backstory of the

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night witches

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they were led by marina roskova who was

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famous for being the first

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female navigator in the soviet air force

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she had received letters from women

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across the soviet union

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who wanted to join the world war ii

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effort many of them had lost loved ones

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or had their villages destroyed and

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wanted to be in combat and fly their own

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planes

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ruskova petitioned to joseph stalin the

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dictator of the soviet union at the time

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for an all-female fighting squadron

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before

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she sent the letter women weren’t

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allowed to serve in the

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army good question yes they were allowed

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to serve in the army but they were not

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allowed to do

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combat oh so just like as like medical

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care and like those yeah like maybe

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moving supplies around

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similar to the harlem hell fighters

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which was a mini set episode we did in

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season one

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but they weren’t they weren’t doing

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combat and a lot of these women wanted

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to fight

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on october 8 1941 stalin gave orders to

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deploy

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three all-female air force units and the

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women would not only fly missions and

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drop bombs but they would return

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fire making the soviet union the first

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nation to officially allow women to

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engage in combat

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wow okay i did not

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me neither that’s what they don’t tell

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you about the soviet union

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so ruskova who’s the leader

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quickly started to fill out her teams

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for more than 2000 applications

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she selected 400 women for each of the

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three units

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most of them were students ranging in

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age from 17 to 26

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those selected moved to engels which is

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a small town north of stalingrad

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to begin training at the engel school of

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aviation

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so during training they underwent a

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highly compressed education

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and were expected to learn in a few

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months what it took most soldiers

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several years to grasp

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each recruit had to train and perform as

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pilots navigators maintenance and ground

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crew

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wow beyond their steep learning curve

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the women face

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skepticism from some of the male

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military personnel who believe they

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added no value to the combat effort

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yeah oh my god not surprising

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yeah of course there’s always some

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background noise

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um yeah so ruskova did her best to

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prepare her women

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for these attitudes but they still face

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sexual harassment

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long nights and grueling conditions

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basically the men didn’t like

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the little girls going to the front line

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that was considered a man’s thing

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so the military um who were unprepared

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for women pilots

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offered them meager resources so flyers

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received hand-me-down uniforms from mail

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soldiers including oversized boots so

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they would have to tear up their bedding

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and stuff them in their boots to get

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them to fit

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oh my god yeah which i’ve done before

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because i ordered the wrong size and

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they did not have a return policy or

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exchange policy

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you took your bed linens not bed linens

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but like cotton you know

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similar so i know what these girls are

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going to just kidding

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the military provided them with outdated

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1920s crop duster planes

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that have been used as training vehicles

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crop duster planes are

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literally the small planes that you

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carry fertilizer in

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and you fly over farms and you dust the

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crops with them

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it just it makes it like a faster

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process so they’re not meant for combat

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no not at all like they’re probably

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super slow

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and like not stealthy

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not safe like yeah they are

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that’s exactly it they were made out of

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plywood with a very thin

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canvas pulled over them which provided

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no protection from the elements so think

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about that you’re literally in the

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atmosphere

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with no protection from the elements

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it’s cold in the ozone layer

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but it’s freezing i can’t even imagine

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like how scary that is i’m already so

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scared

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i could never go i never want to go in

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like a tiny plane or like a helicopter

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like i hate turbulence and like oh it’s

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just so loud and cold

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and then you’re in the literal like a

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war

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yeah you’re fighting in a war in this

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little like it was made of plywood you

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said

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yes plywood wouldn’t wouldn’t crime

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dusting plate

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with no light right it’s yeah they

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didn’t have a lot going for them but

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[Music]

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i can’t oh my god at night um

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especially the pilots had to endure

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freezing temperatures wind

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and frostbite that’s cool um

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in the harsh soviet winters the planes

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were so cold

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that if you touch them with bare skin it

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would rip your skin off

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what the heck oh my god i forgot we’re

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in

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so like oh my god it’s like you’re in

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russia it’s not the caribbean

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oh my god why would you oh my god how

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can you

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low funds all right so due to both the

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plane’s limited weight capacity and the

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military’s limited funds the pilots

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also lacked other luxury items uh their

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male counterparts enjoyed so instead of

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parachutes

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which were too heavy to carry radars

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guns and radios they were forced to use

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more rudimentary tools such as

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rulers stop watches flashlights

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pencils maps and compasses are you

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serious

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yeah this is like impossible i don’t

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know how you did this like

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just like my school supply list for like

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elementary

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school like okay you got your ruler you

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got here’s your protractor like go ahead

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like how far off are we okay

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let me get my protractor out really yeah

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they didn’t even have parachutes

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yeah from my source they didn’t have

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their parachutes which is a big yikes

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um so basically hope you land

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yeah actually i don’t know if i covered

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how they dealt with that i think they

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just

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try not to have to jump out of your

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plane i guess

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all right but i said mess it up right

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just do your job

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so the upside though to the aircrafts

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was that their maximum speed

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was still slower than the stall speed of

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nazi planes

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which means that the wooden planes were

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actually able to maneuver faster than

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the nazis

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so that made them harder to target

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because it’s like if your stall speed

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is still faster than someone else’s turn

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speed

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then you can’t like slow down enough to

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turn which means that the the smaller

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planes are able to

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move faster wow oh my god

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so that was good however since there was

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no defense

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ammunition in the planes they would just

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have to

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duck whenever the enemy opened fire so

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if the plane was hit by a tracer bullet

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it would burst into flames because of

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the wood

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oh my god

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[Music]

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hey did they all survive i guess you’ll

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get into it

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no they did not but i think they did a

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good job but no

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not all of them survived so because the

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bombs were so heavy

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they would be forced to fly at lower

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altitudes making them an easier target

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for nazis

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which is why they could only fly at

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night hence the term night witches

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because

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they couldn’t fly high enough so they’re

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always like

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very close like you can easily see them

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so they have no choice but to go at

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night

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um and then the planes would fly with a

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pilot in the front and a navigator in

0:10:44.880,0:10:47.839
the back

0:10:45.600,0:10:48.880
they also traveled in packs and the

0:10:47.839,0:10:51.360
first planes

0:10:48.880,0:10:52.880
would go in as bait which would attract

0:10:51.360,0:10:55.120
german spotlights

0:10:52.880,0:10:57.360
and they needed the german spotlights to

0:10:55.120,0:10:59.680
help illuminate where the target was

0:10:57.360,0:11:00.800
because again the planes did not have

0:10:59.680,0:11:03.279
light

0:11:00.800,0:11:04.000
um which is really smart that they did

0:11:03.279,0:11:06.160
that

0:11:04.000,0:11:08.399
and then the planes would release a

0:11:06.160,0:11:08.959
flare light to light up the intended

0:11:08.399,0:11:11.279
target

0:11:08.959,0:11:13.680
and then the last plane would idle its

0:11:11.279,0:11:15.360
engines and glide into the darkness

0:11:13.680,0:11:16.560
which created the signature witch’s

0:11:15.360,0:11:18.000
broom sound

0:11:16.560,0:11:19.519
yeah and then that’s when they would

0:11:18.000,0:11:20.240
strike that’s when they dropped their

0:11:19.519,0:11:22.480
bomb because

0:11:20.240,0:11:23.920
you would like you become quiet and then

0:11:22.480,0:11:25.040
you just like glide in so they don’t

0:11:23.920,0:11:26.000
know where you are and then you drop the

0:11:25.040,0:11:28.800
bomb

0:11:26.000,0:11:29.200
well that’s really clever like that’s

0:11:28.800,0:11:31.839
really

0:11:29.200,0:11:33.680
that’s a really smart tactic especially

0:11:31.839,0:11:35.279
okay how do we make this work we have

0:11:33.680,0:11:38.640
literally nothing going for us

0:11:35.279,0:11:42.000
like this is gonna be easy but

0:11:38.640,0:11:44.079
that’s smart super creative who god

0:11:42.000,0:11:45.760
like who’s the one who gets picked as

0:11:44.079,0:11:48.000
bait like that

0:11:45.760,0:11:49.279
that sounds awful yeah that sucks are

0:11:48.000,0:11:51.680
probably the ones that don’t make it

0:11:49.279,0:11:53.200
so there were 12 commandments that the

0:11:51.680,0:11:54.959
night witches followed

0:11:53.200,0:11:57.600
some for strategy but also for

0:11:54.959,0:11:59.360
empowerment and the first one was be

0:11:57.600,0:12:02.160
proud you are a woman

0:11:59.360,0:12:04.160
so marina the leader who created the

0:12:02.160,0:12:06.160
night witches never wanted any of them

0:12:04.160,0:12:07.920
to apologize for being women

0:12:06.160,0:12:10.480
or to take pity on themselves for the

0:12:07.920,0:12:12.720
treatment they were going to receive i

0:12:10.480,0:12:13.920
love that i think that’s so great that

0:12:12.720,0:12:15.440
that was a commandment

0:12:13.920,0:12:17.519
because it’s true why would why should

0:12:15.440,0:12:18.320
you be ashamed of like who you are you

0:12:17.519,0:12:21.120
know

0:12:18.320,0:12:22.560
yeah and they’re amazing so so their

0:12:21.120,0:12:25.760
last flight took place

0:12:22.560,0:12:28.160
on may 4th 1945 when the night witches

0:12:25.760,0:12:30.959
flew within 60 kilometers

0:12:28.160,0:12:32.160
of berlin three days later germany

0:12:30.959,0:12:36.079
officially surrendered

0:12:32.160,0:12:38.560
whoa so the germans had two theories

0:12:36.079,0:12:40.079
about why these women were so successful

0:12:38.560,0:12:42.000
the first theory

0:12:40.079,0:12:43.600
was they were all criminals who were

0:12:42.000,0:12:45.839
masters at stealing

0:12:43.600,0:12:47.040
and had been sent to the front line as

0:12:45.839,0:12:49.839
punishment

0:12:47.040,0:12:52.000
or number two they had been given

0:12:49.839,0:12:54.959
special injections that allowed them

0:12:52.000,0:12:56.000
to see in the night oh my god they’re

0:12:54.959,0:12:58.320
like

0:12:56.000,0:13:00.000
oh what’s in their little mutant people

0:12:58.320,0:13:01.600
yeah they’re like no way they’re just

0:13:00.000,0:13:03.839
regular women

0:13:01.600,0:13:03.839
like

0:13:04.880,0:13:08.959
all together the night witches flew more

0:13:06.560,0:13:11.200
than 30 000 missions in total or about

0:13:08.959,0:13:14.160
800 per pilot and navigator

0:13:11.200,0:13:16.240
they lost a total of 30 pilots and 24 of

0:13:14.160,0:13:18.399
the flyers were awarded the title

0:13:16.240,0:13:20.320
hero of the soviet union which is

0:13:18.399,0:13:22.560
awesome to hear then

0:13:20.320,0:13:25.760
raskova the mother of the movement died

0:13:22.560,0:13:27.279
on january 4th 1943 when she was finally

0:13:25.760,0:13:29.360
sent to the front line

0:13:27.279,0:13:30.720
and her plane did not make it back so

0:13:29.360,0:13:33.839
she was given

0:13:30.720,0:13:34.480
yeah she was given the very first state

0:13:33.839,0:13:36.959
funeral

0:13:34.480,0:13:38.240
of world war ii and her ashes were

0:13:36.959,0:13:40.079
buried in the kremlin

0:13:38.240,0:13:41.279
kremlin is like isn’t that like their

0:13:40.079,0:13:44.959
like white house

0:13:41.279,0:13:48.160
is it probably

0:13:44.959,0:13:50.320
the kremlin oh it is the moscow kremlin

0:13:48.160,0:13:52.320
yeah the florida it’s a fortified

0:13:50.320,0:13:54.000
complex in the center of moscow

0:13:52.320,0:13:56.320
so despite being the most highly

0:13:54.000,0:13:57.839
decorated unit in the soviet air force

0:13:56.320,0:14:00.079
during the war the night witch’s

0:13:57.839,0:14:01.279
regiment was disbanded six months after

0:14:00.079,0:14:03.760
the end of world war

0:14:01.279,0:14:05.199
ii and when it came to the big victory

0:14:03.760,0:14:07.279
day parade in moscow

0:14:05.199,0:14:10.320
they weren’t included because it was

0:14:07.279,0:14:13.360
decided their planes were too slow

0:14:10.320,0:14:15.199
and yeah that’s that’s all

0:14:13.360,0:14:17.600
these always end like this right like

0:14:15.199,0:14:20.240
that was the harlem hellfire same thing

0:14:17.600,0:14:21.519
so it’s unfortunate but this is that’s

0:14:20.240,0:14:23.440
the world

0:14:21.519,0:14:25.120
and that’s basically the story of the

0:14:23.440,0:14:27.760
night which is sorry

0:14:25.120,0:14:28.160
it is not a happier ending but i am very

0:14:27.760,0:14:29.839
proud

0:14:28.160,0:14:31.760
to hear about their story and to be able

0:14:29.839,0:14:33.360
to present this piece of history to you

0:14:31.760,0:14:34.399
all so that we can remember these

0:14:33.360,0:14:38.000
amazing women

0:14:34.399,0:14:40.720
and find strength in their story wow

0:14:38.000,0:14:41.519
i i can’t believe i’ve never heard of

0:14:40.720,0:14:43.120
this before

0:14:41.519,0:14:44.639
first of all like this would be an

0:14:43.120,0:14:46.560
amazing movie plot

0:14:44.639,0:14:47.839
like they should make not a plot but

0:14:46.560,0:14:48.959
like you know they should make a movie

0:14:47.839,0:14:50.560
out of it

0:14:48.959,0:14:52.959
i really because like whenever i learn

0:14:50.560,0:14:53.279
about world war ii it’s like oh my god i

0:14:52.959,0:14:57.120
think

0:14:53.279,0:15:00.399
the soviet union lost like like

0:14:57.120,0:15:02.480
millions of there were like millions of

0:15:00.399,0:15:04.639
casualties like soldier military

0:15:02.480,0:15:06.320
casualties

0:15:04.639,0:15:07.920
but then like so i was always like oh

0:15:06.320,0:15:09.360
i’m dang like somebody

0:15:07.920,0:15:10.880
they’re not doing their military’s not

0:15:09.360,0:15:12.560
doing well but then you have like this

0:15:10.880,0:15:14.959
team of women

0:15:12.560,0:15:16.000
you said each pilot had like around 800

0:15:14.959,0:15:20.160
missions

0:15:16.000,0:15:22.399
yeah how do you do that 800 times how

0:15:20.160,0:15:23.760
first of all how do you not like you

0:15:22.399,0:15:27.440
okay first of all the ads

0:15:23.760,0:15:29.920
are so tiny that you’re going to survive

0:15:27.440,0:15:30.480
like you do it 800 times instead and

0:15:29.920,0:15:33.040
make it

0:15:30.480,0:15:34.000
like that now i’m starting to think like

0:15:33.040,0:15:36.320
yeah maybe they were

0:15:34.000,0:15:37.839
mutant yeah no they did really well

0:15:36.320,0:15:40.959
because they were like

0:15:37.839,0:15:43.120
what 1200 of them and only 30 no

0:15:40.959,0:15:44.160
i mean 30 passing away is very sad and

0:15:43.120,0:15:47.279
that’s still a loss

0:15:44.160,0:15:49.360
but 30 out of that’s a pretty good given

0:15:47.279,0:15:52.079
like everything they had to overcome

0:15:49.360,0:15:53.120
most of them did survive so like when

0:15:52.079,0:15:57.120
did the us

0:15:53.120,0:15:59.360
allow women to like fight like

0:15:57.120,0:16:02.639
hold combat positions in the military

0:15:59.360,0:16:02.639
that’s a great question

0:16:02.880,0:16:06.880
yeah i going off of like your earlier

0:16:05.120,0:16:10.560
point

0:16:06.880,0:16:13.360
um i feel like

0:16:10.560,0:16:15.120
the narrative of the us military and

0:16:13.360,0:16:19.040
army is mostly

0:16:15.120,0:16:21.680
around men and i’ve i know that a lot of

0:16:19.040,0:16:22.320
like people always like oh for equality

0:16:21.680,0:16:24.480
like

0:16:22.320,0:16:26.160
forget equal pay like women need to do

0:16:24.480,0:16:28.800
the draft which like

0:16:26.160,0:16:30.800
sure if you want sure like if you want

0:16:28.800,0:16:33.040
that but i think that that’s a false

0:16:30.800,0:16:35.120
narrative that you put on everyone that

0:16:33.040,0:16:38.720
they don’t want to serve

0:16:35.120,0:16:42.000
in the military um because some women do

0:16:38.720,0:16:42.880
like for some women it’s not like a huge

0:16:42.000,0:16:44.639
blessing that

0:16:42.880,0:16:46.639
we don’t sign up for the draft i know

0:16:44.639,0:16:48.000
like no one wants to die but you’re not

0:16:46.639,0:16:50.399
guaranteed

0:16:48.000,0:16:51.920
to die and if you serve in the military

0:16:50.399,0:16:55.040
you serve it in the army you know

0:16:51.920,0:16:57.199
so women always get excluded from that

0:16:55.040,0:16:59.120
and a lot of women probably did want to

0:16:57.199,0:17:02.000
serve during that time

0:16:59.120,0:17:02.320
yeah that’s always so frustrating i’m

0:17:02.000,0:17:03.920
like

0:17:02.320,0:17:05.839
just getting flashbacks to like high

0:17:03.920,0:17:07.760
school history class and like they’re

0:17:05.839,0:17:08.640
like oh let’s debate about like women’s

0:17:07.760,0:17:11.120
rights

0:17:08.640,0:17:12.640
oh you want equal pay like you don’t

0:17:11.120,0:17:14.480
even get drafted

0:17:12.640,0:17:16.319
right right it’s like okay well if you

0:17:14.480,0:17:20.000
draft me are we gonna be paid the same

0:17:16.319,0:17:22.480
cause i feel like that’s the issue

0:17:20.000,0:17:24.880
um first of all i’d like to have equal

0:17:22.480,0:17:24.880
rights

0:17:26.000,0:17:30.320
my life yeah i don’t know exactly no

0:17:28.559,0:17:32.880
it’s that’s literally they always pull

0:17:30.320,0:17:35.120
the draft card and it’s like

0:17:32.880,0:17:36.640
sure if you want me to register for the

0:17:35.120,0:17:38.960
draft let’s do it

0:17:36.640,0:17:40.400
like is that are you gonna pay me the

0:17:38.960,0:17:43.520
same then

0:17:40.400,0:17:46.720
yeah but yeah so to answer your question

0:17:43.520,0:17:49.840
the it says that

0:17:46.720,0:17:53.679
the 1994 rescinding of the okay so in

0:17:49.840,0:17:57.039
1988 there was a risk rule

0:17:53.679,0:18:00.080
and that rule i think is what

0:17:57.039,0:18:01.520
prevented women from being able oh it

0:18:00.080,0:18:04.400
was a combat man

0:18:01.520,0:18:04.400
wait a second

0:18:05.679,0:18:10.160
yeah i feel like pretty recent because

0:18:07.840,0:18:13.679
they weren’t fighting in like vietnam

0:18:10.160,0:18:16.080
yeah it says in 1994 the rescinding of

0:18:13.679,0:18:18.640
the 1988 risk rule

0:18:16.080,0:18:19.200
allowed women to serve in all positions

0:18:18.640,0:18:22.400
except

0:18:19.200,0:18:23.280
those engaged in direct ground combat

0:18:22.400,0:18:25.440
roles

0:18:23.280,0:18:27.440
subsequently women have been able to

0:18:25.440,0:18:28.240
serve in almost all air force and navy

0:18:27.440,0:18:31.760
positions

0:18:28.240,0:18:35.039
since the mid-1990s okay so

0:18:31.760,0:18:38.480
they still wait can they not serve in

0:18:35.039,0:18:40.320
on the ground combat still no yeah they

0:18:38.480,0:18:44.400
can

0:18:40.320,0:18:44.400
for sure only since 2016.

0:18:44.640,0:18:49.120
no yes i’m reading it right here women

0:18:47.600,0:18:51.440
have been training to become marines for

0:18:49.120,0:18:53.280
decades but only since 2016 have they

0:18:51.440,0:18:56.480
been able to serve in combat roles

0:18:53.280,0:18:59.520
alongside men

0:18:56.480,0:19:01.919
huh are you kidding me

0:18:59.520,0:19:01.919
is that

0:19:02.640,0:19:07.440
because that the 1994 rescinding of the

0:19:06.160,0:19:09.280
risk rule

0:19:07.440,0:19:10.880
only allowed them to serve in the air

0:19:09.280,0:19:14.799
force of the navy they still weren’t

0:19:10.880,0:19:14.799
allowed to serve in on-the-ground combat

0:19:16.160,0:19:18.480
what

0:19:19.200,0:19:26.880
how do we not know that literally

0:19:22.480,0:19:26.880
i i thought they were like female

0:19:28.400,0:19:33.280
maybe recently in the past four years

0:19:30.559,0:19:37.520
that’s insane

0:19:33.280,0:19:43.440
that’s crazy i literally did not realize

0:19:37.520,0:19:43.440
how recent that was that’s wild yeah

0:19:43.840,0:19:47.600
i’m looking who is the highest ranking

0:19:45.520,0:19:50.240
female military officer

0:19:47.600,0:19:53.520
and then it says u.s air force general

0:19:50.240,0:19:57.440
lori robinson is um

0:19:53.520,0:20:01.280
and she served from 2016 to 2018.

0:19:57.440,0:20:03.280
that’s like two years ago wow

0:20:01.280,0:20:04.480
yeah they have been allowed in

0:20:03.280,0:20:09.120
submarines

0:20:04.480,0:20:09.120
since 2014. are you kidding me

0:20:09.280,0:20:15.360
that’s so recent

0:20:12.320,0:20:18.159
that’s literally i had no clue i

0:20:15.360,0:20:18.640
thought we like i thought women could

0:20:18.159,0:20:20.720
just

0:20:18.640,0:20:21.840
hold any position and i thought it was

0:20:20.720,0:20:23.280
like

0:20:21.840,0:20:24.880
but now that i think of it like how did

0:20:23.280,0:20:25.520
i not realize it wasn’t recent because

0:20:24.880,0:20:28.559
like

0:20:25.520,0:20:31.039
they’re not fighting in like vietnam

0:20:28.559,0:20:33.360
they weren’t fighting in like the 80s

0:20:31.039,0:20:34.240
yeah they’re like not allowed actually

0:20:33.360,0:20:38.080
it’s like a

0:20:34.240,0:20:40.400
ban hmm

0:20:38.080,0:20:43.039
let me read this pentagon now says yeah

0:20:40.400,0:20:45.120
that’s a 2015 article

0:20:43.039,0:20:46.320
process yeah no they literally started

0:20:45.120,0:20:49.679
the process to open

0:20:46.320,0:20:52.480
combat jobs to women in january of 2013.

0:20:49.679,0:20:53.280
started the process so it wasn’t even

0:20:52.480,0:20:56.720
done

0:20:53.280,0:20:59.919
holy moly wow disappointed that i

0:20:56.720,0:21:00.799
did not know that i mean she has a bit

0:20:59.919,0:21:04.240
of a bummer

0:21:00.799,0:21:06.159
um for this episode

0:21:04.240,0:21:07.679
wow it looks like we got a lot of work

0:21:06.159,0:21:11.039
to do and

0:21:07.679,0:21:11.600
yeah for women who are serving thank you

0:21:11.039,0:21:14.080
to

0:21:11.600,0:21:14.080
anyone

0:21:18.640,0:21:22.480
no no no thanks to all our veterans and

0:21:21.200,0:21:23.570
i’m proud to be

0:21:22.480,0:21:25.679
an american

0:21:23.570,0:21:27.520
[Music]

0:21:25.679,0:21:29.200
i remember were you the one that told me

0:21:27.520,0:21:30.559
that your gym teacher made you watch

0:21:29.200,0:21:34.320
that like every

0:21:30.559,0:21:36.960
better here the size of the

0:21:34.320,0:21:36.960
marines

0:21:38.320,0:21:42.320
i love that song anyways yeah last thing

0:21:41.200,0:21:45.760
before we go though

0:21:42.320,0:21:47.360
yeah the 1988 in 1988 there was a rule

0:21:45.760,0:21:50.480
called the risk rule

0:21:47.360,0:21:52.320
and it excluded women from non-combat

0:21:50.480,0:21:53.120
units or missions so they like

0:21:52.320,0:21:56.320
completely

0:21:53.120,0:21:59.039
not allowed to be in the at all

0:21:56.320,0:22:00.159
really yeah okay so there you go if you

0:21:59.039,0:22:02.559
ever have the debate

0:22:00.159,0:22:04.880
about women’s right to pull that on them

0:22:02.559,0:22:07.280
wow okay now i’m like

0:22:04.880,0:22:09.600
someone someone try me someone text me

0:22:07.280,0:22:13.760
say something say something

0:22:09.600,0:22:15.919
i got my dates lined up like i’m ready

0:22:13.760,0:22:17.600
all right well yeah that is the night

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