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Show Notes
America has a long and expansive history of war, but none is as often forgotten or is as pointless as the War of 1812. In this episode, Nat talks about America’s first declared war that involved the kidnapping of American sailors, the capture of our nation’s capital by Canadian and British forces and the destruction of the White House.
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hi everyone and welcome back to another
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episode of how did we not know that my
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name is Jack I’m Nana and today and that
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is going to talk about a very important
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war that happened yeah yeah today I’m
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going to be talking about the war of
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1812 super city so before I get into it
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Jack what do you know about the war of
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1812 nothing I know it was 200 years ago
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so the while ago I don’t even was it a
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US war yeah yeah so we fought and it was
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on US soil okay yeah so I so like did
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not know a lot about war of 1812 I was
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like oh it sounds super boring um like
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okay if listeners have like realized we
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don’t really talk about a lot of stuff
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like in like the early 1800s like the
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very beginning years of America like
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that’s for a reason like personally I’m
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not very interested in the topic but I
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was like okay I know nothing about war
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of 1812 so I should look into it um so
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I’ll just like dive right into it so
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basically in the year of 1812 America is
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a really really young country right
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likes I know in case you forgot we
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gained our independence in 1776 and then
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so Great Britain so there are there that
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people were fighting in the war right at
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this time Great Britain is really huge
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and they’re the world’s greatest naval
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power and even though we’re such a young
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tiny country we still end up going to
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war with them and so yeah so basically
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war of 1812 is uh subversives Great
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Britain um and so the causes of the war
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you might be wondering why yeah I feel
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like we just had the American Revolution
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then to go into another war right like
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we’re still recovering from the war of
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independence and then also like we’re
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still trying to establish ourselves as
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like our sandwich our government and
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establish ourselves as an independent
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nation but we were still really pissed
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at Great Britain and you’re so mad that
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we decided that we should go to war so
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there’s
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really one like clear main cause for the
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war but like historians have kind of
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broken it down into three three overall
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reasons so at the time Great Britain is
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fighting France in the Napoleonic Wars
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I also yeah we got a research Napoleon
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because he’s a big guy and I don’t even
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yeah I realize I never really took like
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European history classes and I think
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that’s like kind of problem you should
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probably know this up
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because it basically
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no you’re good you say like I feel like
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these wars like when I was looking into
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the Napoleonic Wars I was like oh my
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gosh how did I not know about this this
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was such a huge deal and they were
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fighting for so long yeah see I feel the
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opposite way I feel like we learned a
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lot more about European history than
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anywhere else in the world and I know
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there’s a lot going on in Asia probably
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lots of things in South America and
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Africa too and we just like but that’s
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fairly we’re a dominant we won’t even
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know I really completely agree with you
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know I think you’re actually true I
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think I just don’t remember a lot of
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Guttenberg you hear me complain about
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this all the time Gutenberg printing
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press we sweat like half a year on the
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Gutenberg printing press it’s pretty
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self-explanatory okay he just made
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little stencils and then printed books
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that’s all the lesson had to be it was a
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one-liner sentence and they stretched
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that out for forever it’s like the most
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influential piece of history I don’t
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know you’re talking about
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hey but but yeah so definitely skipped
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over a war of 1812 at least in my
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classes and so yeah so Great Britain and
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France are fighting in the Napoleonic
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Wars and so both these two countries are
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trying to stop the other country from
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trading with the u.s. so that so because
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they don’t want the other country to
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like benefit from trading yeah whatever
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and so the US was super upset with Great
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Britain for restricting their trade
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because they’re like oh my gosh like we
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just gained our independence from you
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guys
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you can’t like be telling us what we can
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and can’t do so they were pretty Great
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Britain for that also another crazy
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thing that’s happening at this time so
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they’re upset about the Royal Navy like
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the Great Britain Great Britain’s Navy
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their policy of impressment
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of American sailors and basically like
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impressment means is that Great Britain
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would like they would attack your ships
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and they call them in like kidnap the US
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sailors on those ships bring them back
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to Britain and be like okay now you have
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to fight in our army and this because I
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guess
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there is a shortage of sailors during
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this war it had been going on for so
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long and so many people died so they’re
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like oh we need new sailors so let’s
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just kidnap them um and so yeah Great
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Britain benefits a lot from this policy
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because like not only are they getting
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more sailors but they’re also
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interfering with trade between the u.s.
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and France by like attacking these ships
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and everything and like yeah the u.s. is
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like what the heck you literally and
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members of Congress trying to use this
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as like one of the really big reasons to
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declare war in Britain publicly they’re
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kind of like we can’t let them get away
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with this we must fight and then like
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the third and final reason is that
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America was trying to expand its
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territory so at the time Canada is a
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British colony and so they’re like okay
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we got our eyes set and Canada and so
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you know war might if we win the war
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maybe we’ll gain all of Canada as well
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the United States wanted it like we were
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like okay Oh huge country oh my gosh
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that’s like all of North America it’s
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just that is like that was like pretty
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much the goal okay God like all these
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presidents at the beginning like they
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really had yeah that’s when I guess you
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know times were simpler back then you
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just wanted to gain more land also
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question I don’t know I know you’ve
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worked in Canada so I have no idea about
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the history of Canada
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I met one nice Canadian on a plane and
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he said that the unifying factor of
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Canadians was that they were American
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yes thank you guys have a history surely
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like dude okay this is completely for
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catering I will get into how this
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impacted the Canadian identity later at
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the end but like literally I did not
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like hear about this war until I went to
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Canada and as soon as I stepped foot in
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Canada so I was like working in Ottawa
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right so it’s the capital um everyone is
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talk about war of 1812 as soon as I was
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brought up I was Americans they’re like
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oh like throwback to that Oh Lord of
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1812 well and they’re very proud of it
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for like a lot of I will get into later
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but yeah I was like oh my god
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that’s hilarious throwback to 1812 y’all
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remember that nobody’s like oh yeah for
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sure I know everything
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no way that’s totally a parallel because
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I know okay I should probably talk to my
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English friends but like for us right
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the American Revolution is like
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everything but for them it’s like okay
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this group of people just kind of went
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off to another country and started that
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and there’s a war but they that’s not
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like a huge part in their history that
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they talk about yeah it’s kind of like
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okay like the are loud neighbors we want
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a nice life yeah but yeah they’re yeah
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politicians and presidents have their
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eyes set on Canada and then other Native
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American territories and they’re like
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let’s just take over the whole continent
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while we’re at it um and so Congress is
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really divided about going to war with
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Great Britain because obviously Great
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Britain has a way stronger Navy and a
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lot more funding so to put it in
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perspective the US Army only has about
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ten to twelve thousand soldiers and they
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weren’t like properly trained or
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equipped and the US Navy only had 17
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ships or Great Britain has a thousand
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and then Britain collected 40 times more
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tax revenue than the US so they’re way
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more loaded than we are but at the time
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again
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Great Britain is fighting Napoleon and
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um yeah they’re fighting Napoleon and so
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they’re super distracted we’re not
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really concentrating all of their
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efforts on fighting the US and so
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they’re kind of using that to their
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advantage like okay they’re putting all
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their efforts and all their best men I
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guess um in France and so the northern
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states they’re do you remember like the
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Federalist Party I like yeah so that’s
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like mostly northern states are in the
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Federalist Party and so they don’t
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support the war with Great Britain
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because they rely on trade with the
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country because like they don’t have a
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lot of farming so they
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really they want to keep trading with
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Great Britain so they’re like let’s not
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go to war but southern states have a lot
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of farmland to implantation so they
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don’t really have to worry about that
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and they were like hey like yeah we
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should go to war with Great Britain
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because they also want more land for
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farming and for slavery so yeah there’s
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very much a divide between north and
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south again um yeah and so when it’s
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voted on in Congress it would actually
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be the smallest margin of votes for a
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declaration of war in US history so it
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was so close like they just barely
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passed it and so yeah this kind of shows
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you what like the general feelings about
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entering the war like people weren’t
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really excited about it and I’m June
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18th 1812 President James Madison signs
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a declaration of war against Great
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Britain and this is actually the first
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time the u.s. declares war on anybody
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because like in the war of independence
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not like a country yet um now that
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they’re the first country or like yeah
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your First Lord
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hmm interesting take on it and so yeah
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so the war begins it almost immediately
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like the US forces are attacking Canada
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in order to like strike at Creighton
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because it’s a British colony and so
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their thought process is that you know
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Canadians are going to join forces with
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us because they’re going to want to
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revolt against Great Britain and like
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join like the free country of America
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and they’re going to join our side but
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like this that’s not what happened and
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so like we went in way too confident and
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we were very quickly defeated by
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Canadian and British troops yeah and I
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was like no we’re we’re not one of you
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guys sorry
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question so if okay so at this time
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there’s already like an established
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Canada but that’s just a territory of
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England you know do we consider Canada
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its own Canadian country or is it just
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like this is just more of England land
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yeah I think I think that’s a time like
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Canada is still a young relatively
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younger British
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Hannie so i think it just is like okay
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they’re like primarily afraid of I think
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the people like living in Canada like
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the residents of Canada
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feel more independent from Britain but
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like Americans kind of see them as just
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British people yeah British people yeah
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I believe that’s like a general
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sentiment but we argue out very quickly
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defeated by Canada and we’re very
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shocked like whoa we were not expecting
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strong resistance everyone’s supposed to
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be so nice in Canada hey everyone how we
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planned it but yeah so US troops they
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actually surrendered the town of Detroit
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Michigan without any shots being fired
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like they’re just so scared that they I
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think they kind of just run away like no
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in the United States we were just like
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you can have Detroit yeah and like they
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claim the town of Detroit so we are
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invaded by Canada also this is very nice
0:12:51.230,0:12:57.320
the Canada that I know a so polite it’s
0:12:55.430,0:12:59.420
like if you met a really nice person and
0:12:57.320,0:13:01.610
you’re like can I use your bathroom and
0:12:59.420,0:13:03.020
they’re like no you know what I mean it
0:13:01.610,0:13:04.850
catches you really off-guard because you
0:13:03.020,0:13:07.040
think that it’s just like a given that
0:13:04.850,0:13:09.470
they would let you use your yeah I don’t
0:13:07.040,0:13:11.870
know okay well that’s kind of like one
0:13:09.470,0:13:13.430
of the issues with this like why we were
0:13:11.870,0:13:16.070
quickly defeated because we didn’t like
0:13:13.430,0:13:18.110
give much thought to it and we like our
0:13:16.070,0:13:21.200
planning wasn’t great we’re kind of like
0:13:18.110,0:13:23.810
let’s just go yeah it was our first war
0:13:21.200,0:13:26.860
to be fair it was the first time we were
0:13:23.810,0:13:29.420
Rikki so we got to cut us some slack but
0:13:26.860,0:13:33.050
but yeah so okay so now I’m going to
0:13:29.420,0:13:35.930
rewind to the fall of 1811 so before the
0:13:33.050,0:13:37.220
war has officially been declared um and
0:13:35.930,0:13:40.520
I’m going to talk about the Battle of
0:13:37.220,0:13:43.010
Tippecanoe in Indiana have you heard of
0:13:40.520,0:13:46.040
this battle because this maybe it’s
0:13:43.010,0:13:48.140
because I like I don’t know Illinois is
0:13:46.040,0:13:50.330
close to Indiana but I feel like I’ve
0:13:48.140,0:13:52.339
heard of the Battle of Tippecanoe so
0:13:50.330,0:13:54.530
many times at school but I didn’t like
0:13:52.339,0:13:58.209
remember what it was but so basically
0:13:54.530,0:14:02.899
fall of 1811 um so in
0:13:58.209,0:14:04.819
Tippecanoe Indiana so Shawnee chief to
0:14:02.899,0:14:07.730
come sir his name is to come sir
0:14:04.819,0:14:10.600
he’s the leader of profit sound which is
0:14:07.730,0:14:13.579
a Native American settlement and so
0:14:10.600,0:14:16.550
chief Tecumseh he’s encouraging other
0:14:13.579,0:14:18.529
Native Americans to abandon the ways of
0:14:16.550,0:14:23.110
whites especially in regards to alcohol
0:14:18.529,0:14:25.759
and consumer goods and he’s like okay ah
0:14:23.110,0:14:27.199
like just don’t listen to what all the
0:14:25.759,0:14:29.089
white people are telling you like just
0:14:27.199,0:14:32.089
ignore them and then like we should all
0:14:29.089,0:14:34.790
I guess like unite let’s create our own
0:14:32.089,0:14:36.860
side on my end like there’s safety in
0:14:34.790,0:14:38.420
numbers like yeah so he’s creating the
0:14:36.860,0:14:40.639
settlement and he’s also a lot more
0:14:38.420,0:14:43.220
militant than other Native American
0:14:40.639,0:14:45.769
leaders at the time and so his vision is
0:14:43.220,0:14:48.470
uniting Native American tribes across
0:14:45.769,0:14:51.199
the country and actively resisting white
0:14:48.470,0:14:53.389
settlement and so obviously the US
0:14:51.199,0:14:56.660
government is not a fan of to come so
0:14:53.389,0:14:59.329
and so they send General William Henry
0:14:56.660,0:15:01.370
Harrison to destroy the settlement of
0:14:59.329,0:15:03.769
profits found in the Battle of
0:15:01.370,0:15:05.660
Tippecanoe which also okay
0:15:03.769,0:15:08.300
I just want to add a quick side note so
0:15:05.660,0:15:11.029
William Henry Harrison this general he
0:15:08.300,0:15:14.480
would later become president in 1840 and
0:15:11.029,0:15:17.360
he gives the longest inauguration speech
0:15:14.480,0:15:19.730
ever in US history he catches a cold
0:15:17.360,0:15:22.850
from this speech and then he dies forty
0:15:19.730,0:15:24.500
days later oh I think I’ve heard of this
0:15:22.850,0:15:28.720
president isn’t that is he the one with
0:15:24.500,0:15:31.579
the shortest term yeah passes away
0:15:28.720,0:15:34.399
pretty much yeah a little what was his
0:15:31.579,0:15:37.220
name again here William Henry Harrison
0:15:34.399,0:15:39.829
William Henry Harrison yikes
0:15:37.220,0:15:41.509
yeah I thought that was I did not know
0:15:39.829,0:15:44.420
that so I know long was his speech do
0:15:41.509,0:15:46.399
you know like an hour no I think it was
0:15:44.420,0:15:52.269
a long long time I think it was like a
0:15:46.399,0:15:55.819
few hours but yeah yeah but yes I just
0:15:52.269,0:15:57.500
remember I just want to throw that so
0:15:55.819,0:15:59.990
back to the Battle of Tippecanoe so
0:15:57.500,0:16:04.370
Harrison his forces defeat to come sir
0:15:59.990,0:16:06.500
and this defeat convinces many Native
0:16:04.370,0:16:09.259
Americans in the region including to
0:16:06.500,0:16:12.110
come sir that they need to join British
0:16:09.259,0:16:13.700
forces later in the war of 1812
0:16:12.110,0:16:16.310
because they need to fight against the
0:16:13.700,0:16:17.959
US in order to prevent American settlers
0:16:16.310,0:16:20.329
from pushing them further out of their
0:16:17.959,0:16:23.390
lands um so this is really important
0:16:20.329,0:16:24.920
because once the war of 1812 starts the
0:16:23.390,0:16:27.730
u.s. is fighting against British
0:16:24.920,0:16:30.680
Canadian and Native American troops um
0:16:27.730,0:16:33.050
yeah so it’s like it’s not looking good
0:16:30.680,0:16:35.120
for the US but we do have quite a few
0:16:33.050,0:16:37.370
successes throughout the war like
0:16:35.120,0:16:39.860
surprisingly so in the early months of
0:16:37.370,0:16:42.800
the war we actually scored a lot of
0:16:39.860,0:16:44.839
victories against the Royal Navy because
0:16:42.800,0:16:46.610
again they’re fighting in France and
0:16:44.839,0:16:48.890
they’re not really I’m paying too much
0:16:46.610,0:16:51.079
attention to us we’re just kind of like
0:16:48.890,0:16:54.529
a side note really oh gosh now we gotta
0:16:51.079,0:16:57.470
worry about these guys again but um we
0:16:54.529,0:17:01.010
also defeat British invasions in New
0:16:57.470,0:17:03.649
York and Baltimore and then General
0:17:01.010,0:17:06.709
William Henry Harrison and he reclaims
0:17:03.649,0:17:09.169
Detroit in the Battle of Thames and then
0:17:06.709,0:17:13.939
he actually kills – comes up in this
0:17:09.169,0:17:18.140
conflict so yeah so we do Windows but
0:17:13.939,0:17:21.049
then we also suffer a lot of defeats and
0:17:18.140,0:17:23.449
so we lose Detroit originally Pro back
0:17:21.049,0:17:25.189
to that and then this is like just the
0:17:23.449,0:17:29.240
while they’re saying I can’t get over
0:17:25.189,0:17:30.740
this so on August 24 1814 um also August
0:17:29.240,0:17:34.220
21st is my little sister’s birthday so
0:17:30.740,0:17:37.790
shout-out to her so British and Canadian
0:17:34.220,0:17:41.210
Forces C’s Washington DC and burn down
0:17:37.790,0:17:43.580
the White House so it’s just like that
0:17:41.210,0:17:44.809
think of it is like not only was our
0:17:43.580,0:17:48.169
nation’s capitol
0:17:44.809,0:17:50.090
like invaded and seized by foreign
0:17:48.169,0:17:52.549
troops but they literally burned down
0:17:50.090,0:17:56.210
the White House this is what Canadians
0:17:52.549,0:17:59.750
are both Canadian and British troops
0:17:56.210,0:18:01.190
how dare what oh my gosh I didn’t
0:17:59.750,0:18:04.580
realize the White House got burned down
0:18:01.190,0:18:08.450
like how burned to a crisp or just like
0:18:04.580,0:18:12.950
a little charred I don’t know I died I
0:18:08.450,0:18:14.900
honestly don’t know um yeah but I do
0:18:12.950,0:18:17.419
know that like the design of the White
0:18:14.900,0:18:19.520
House has changed a lot since it was
0:18:17.419,0:18:21.110
okay we didn’t even have a White House
0:18:19.520,0:18:23.570
for a while I don’t know I know that
0:18:21.110,0:18:24.919
design has came so I’m guessing it had
0:18:23.570,0:18:27.340
to do with the fact that becomes
0:18:24.919,0:18:27.340
destroyed
0:18:27.630,0:18:33.179
that was probably a big factor but yeah
0:18:30.000,0:18:36.380
third opportunity to remodel I guess you
0:18:33.179,0:18:39.780
want to put some light on the situation
0:18:36.380,0:18:42.360
yeah look at it but yeah when I was
0:18:39.780,0:18:44.940
working in Canada this is what little
0:18:42.360,0:18:47.130
people would always read this up all the
0:18:44.940,0:18:49.590
time like Oh remember when we burnt down
0:18:47.130,0:18:51.419
the White House in the war of 1812 and
0:18:49.590,0:18:53.730
like he would love to like talk about it
0:18:51.419,0:18:57.990
I’m like oh my gosh like I really have
0:18:53.730,0:19:00.030
no idea that what Canadians remember and
0:18:57.990,0:19:01.950
they are very proud of it this is the
0:19:00.030,0:19:04.470
first time I’m hearing that the White
0:19:01.950,0:19:10.230
House was burnt down by Canadian that’s
0:19:04.470,0:19:11.970
what we don’t talk about this it’s
0:19:10.230,0:19:14.070
probably cuz it’s embarrassing for us
0:19:11.970,0:19:17.190
right yeah
0:19:14.070,0:19:19.679
but I thought that was wild our capital
0:19:17.190,0:19:23.850
like was seized by foreign invaders
0:19:19.679,0:19:27.169
that’s laughs but again like there are
0:19:23.850,0:19:30.240
more successes so despite all this like
0:19:27.169,0:19:33.150
we still have some victories and we turn
0:19:30.240,0:19:36.900
out okay in the end obviously and so on
0:19:33.150,0:19:40.590
September 13th 1814 for two years after
0:19:36.900,0:19:43.080
the war began u.s. soldiers successfully
0:19:40.590,0:19:45.780
defend Fort McHenry after 25 hours
0:19:43.080,0:19:48.000
straight of bombardment by the British
0:19:45.780,0:19:50.010
Navy that’s a long time and then the
0:19:48.000,0:19:52.860
next morning the fourth soldier is
0:19:50.010,0:19:54.720
raised a giant year’s flag and this
0:19:52.860,0:19:56.850
would be the site that inspired an
0:19:54.720,0:19:59.730
onlooker to write a poem about the
0:19:56.850,0:20:02.490
battle and the poet was Francis Scott
0:19:59.730,0:20:04.559
Key and his poem would later be set to
0:20:02.490,0:20:05.910
the tune of an old English drinking song
0:20:04.559,0:20:08.220
and would become known as the
0:20:05.910,0:20:11.850
star-spangled banner our national anthem
0:20:08.220,0:20:15.299
so sweet but I didn’t realize it was to
0:20:11.850,0:20:16.799
the tune of a drinking song also did not
0:20:15.299,0:20:21.720
know that I found it out of my research
0:20:16.799,0:20:25.280
and I was like oh yeah but I definitely
0:20:21.720,0:20:25.280
thought that the star-spangled banner
0:20:26.630,0:20:32.610
were the 1812 yeah me too I thought that
0:20:29.640,0:20:35.159
the we had that are like national anthem
0:20:32.610,0:20:38.040
was locked down like by the Revolution
0:20:35.159,0:20:39.540
time I didn’t realize it was like 40
0:20:38.040,0:20:42.510
years later and
0:20:39.540,0:20:44.580
took a while for his poem to be like
0:20:42.510,0:20:47.130
sent to the tune of music and then
0:20:44.580,0:20:50.580
chosen as an anthem so we didn’t have an
0:20:47.130,0:20:54.060
anthem for a while I think on yeah
0:20:50.580,0:20:58.200
so it’s wild so alright so now I’m gonna
0:20:54.060,0:21:00.180
so flash forward to February 17th 1815
0:20:58.200,0:21:03.600
so this is three years after the start
0:21:00.180,0:21:06.420
of the war um the Treaty of Ghent is
0:21:03.600,0:21:10.380
ratified which officially ends the war
0:21:06.420,0:21:13.050
of 1812 um so if you look at this treaty
0:21:10.380,0:21:17.040
you can easily see how pointless this
0:21:13.050,0:21:19.350
whole war is because so the US and Great
0:21:17.040,0:21:21.410
Britain they keep their original
0:21:19.350,0:21:23.790
territories like theirs they don’t
0:21:21.410,0:21:25.740
there’s no exchange in territories
0:21:23.790,0:21:29.610
between the two nations so it’s not like
0:21:25.740,0:21:31.590
okay we gain Canada or like Great
0:21:29.610,0:21:34.500
Britain one parts of us know nothing
0:21:31.590,0:21:37.470
happens and then the treaty says nothing
0:21:34.500,0:21:39.420
about ending British impressment
0:21:37.470,0:21:41.760
of US sailors and it doesn’t say
0:21:39.420,0:21:43.470
anything about like restricting trade so
0:21:41.760,0:21:46.470
like literally the reasons we came into
0:21:43.470,0:21:49.380
war like nothing there’s nothing yet
0:21:46.470,0:21:51.270
nothing is achieved and basically
0:21:49.380,0:21:54.510
everything returns back to normal for
0:21:51.270,0:21:56.820
the US and Great Britain but okay so
0:21:54.510,0:22:01.140
actually I thought this is so funny so
0:21:56.820,0:22:03.750
on January 8th 1815 so unaware that the
0:22:01.140,0:22:05.850
war had already ended British troops
0:22:03.750,0:22:08.940
attacked the u.s. in the Battle of New
0:22:05.850,0:22:12.180
Orleans and they are quickly defeated by
0:22:08.940,0:22:14.880
General Andrew Jackson’s army and so
0:22:12.180,0:22:16.500
even though this was technically after
0:22:14.880,0:22:18.750
peace had been declared and it’s like
0:22:16.500,0:22:22.290
that it shouldn’t really be part of war
0:22:18.750,0:22:24.240
of 1812 this left Americans with a taste
0:22:22.290,0:22:26.460
of victory so they’re like oh yeah we
0:22:24.240,0:22:29.490
definitely want this or check this out
0:22:26.460,0:22:30.960
uh even though none of their pre-war
0:22:29.490,0:22:33.060
objectives we’re at ease they were like
0:22:30.960,0:22:36.830
yep we definitely won like pat on the
0:22:33.060,0:22:36.830
back for us it’s the American Way
0:22:38.350,0:22:42.309
we also won like we’re feeling pretty
0:22:40.600,0:22:44.919
good like that last battle doesn’t
0:22:42.309,0:22:46.780
really count and like so like yeah there
0:22:44.919,0:22:48.730
because each country like has their own
0:22:46.780,0:22:52.780
successes in defeat so both countries
0:22:48.730,0:22:55.240
are like yeah we want for us and however
0:22:52.780,0:22:57.370
while there are no clear winners there
0:22:55.240,0:22:59.710
is definitely a loser of the war and
0:22:57.370,0:23:03.250
that is the Native Americans so they
0:22:59.710,0:23:05.110
suffer significant casualties from this
0:23:03.250,0:23:10.780
war and they lose a lot of their
0:23:05.110,0:23:13.929
territory to the US um so despite how
0:23:10.780,0:23:16.900
little was achieved as a result the war
0:23:13.929,0:23:19.690
of 1812 has a huge impact on American
0:23:16.900,0:23:21.190
patriotism and politics at the time so
0:23:19.690,0:23:23.890
it’s seen as a second war of
0:23:21.190,0:23:26.590
independence to Americans or like yes
0:23:23.890,0:23:29.830
we’d be separated yet again and then if
0:23:26.590,0:23:31.900
this begins an era of like partisan
0:23:29.830,0:23:33.309
agreement so both parties are agreeing
0:23:31.900,0:23:35.950
with each other and then there’s a lot
0:23:33.309,0:23:38.500
of national pride that is being felt and
0:23:35.950,0:23:40.990
this will later be known as the era of
0:23:38.500,0:23:43.980
good feelings which is like such a cool
0:23:40.990,0:23:47.200
name just like good vibes only basically
0:23:43.980,0:23:49.990
modern-day yeah yeah I love it
0:23:47.200,0:23:51.880
but um yeah so the war of 1812 is
0:23:49.990,0:23:54.159
basically the end of the Federalist
0:23:51.880,0:23:57.159
Party because they’re seen as being
0:23:54.159,0:24:00.130
unpatriotic for their anti-war fans and
0:23:57.159,0:24:02.380
it produces a new generation of American
0:24:00.130,0:24:05.470
generals and it helps lead Andrew
0:24:02.380,0:24:07.960
Jackson John Quincy Adams James Monroe
0:24:05.470,0:24:10.419
and William Henry Harrison into the US
0:24:07.960,0:24:14.169
presidency so this really impacts our
0:24:10.419,0:24:16.330
politics and most importantly the war of
0:24:14.169,0:24:19.240
1812 confirms that the u.s. really
0:24:16.330,0:24:21.970
exists so it really like solidified
0:24:19.240,0:24:24.250
their real nation yeah a real
0:24:21.970,0:24:25.870
independent nation and so after this
0:24:24.250,0:24:29.140
Great Britain would never invade the
0:24:25.870,0:24:31.750
u.s. again and the u.s. not only saw
0:24:29.140,0:24:33.760
itself as an indicate independent nation
0:24:31.750,0:24:35.440
separate from Great Britain but also as
0:24:33.760,0:24:37.179
a big player on the world stage for like
0:24:35.440,0:24:40.419
while we could we can really achieve
0:24:37.179,0:24:44.320
anything if we have enough soldiers and
0:24:40.419,0:24:47.320
like gun power but um yeah and so today
0:24:44.320,0:24:48.640
when we remember the war of 1812 I think
0:24:47.320,0:24:51.220
it’s also important to remember that
0:24:48.640,0:24:52.299
there are four very distinct versions of
0:24:51.220,0:24:54.489
the story
0:24:52.299,0:24:57.759
so in comparison to the American
0:24:54.489,0:25:00.209
perspective the British version is often
0:24:57.759,0:25:03.159
overshadowed in history books by the
0:25:00.209,0:25:05.619
Napoleonic Wars and so I actually like
0:25:03.159,0:25:07.629
texted my aim British friends the other
0:25:05.619,0:25:10.509
day shout out to him he knows who he is
0:25:07.629,0:25:12.849
and I was okay what do you know about
0:25:10.509,0:25:14.919
war of 1812 he was like literally like I
0:25:12.849,0:25:17.979
don’t know that much he’s like we always
0:25:14.919,0:25:19.899
talked about poliana cores and yeah he
0:25:17.979,0:25:23.229
doesn’t really remember war of 1812
0:25:19.899,0:25:25.359
um and so to again to put these two
0:25:23.229,0:25:27.969
conflicts into perspective the war of
0:25:25.359,0:25:30.700
1812 and then the poliana cores so in
0:25:27.969,0:25:33.219
the war of 1812 20,000 people died on
0:25:30.700,0:25:37.299
both sides but then in the Napoleonic
0:25:33.219,0:25:39.099
Wars 3.5 million people died so that’s
0:25:37.299,0:25:42.459
like a huge difference so obviously it
0:25:39.099,0:25:45.249
makes sense why this war is over tattled
0:25:42.459,0:25:48.339
because again it’s pretty pointless in
0:25:45.249,0:25:51.129
the end and additionally the British see
0:25:48.339,0:25:51.969
the main cause of the world of 1812 is
0:25:51.129,0:25:54.329
American
0:25:51.969,0:25:57.549
America’s desire for territorial
0:25:54.329,0:26:01.149
acquisition so they’re like you guys
0:25:57.549,0:26:02.859
just wanted to take Canada so chill make
0:26:01.149,0:26:06.820
sense I feel like you’re a new nation
0:26:02.859,0:26:10.119
you want to prove that your mess with
0:26:06.820,0:26:18.729
question on the dates of the war so how
0:26:10.119,0:26:20.229
long did the war lasts like 1815 it’s
0:26:18.729,0:26:22.719
like a really stupid name because it
0:26:20.229,0:26:24.700
lasts multiple years but and then
0:26:22.719,0:26:27.399
follow-up question so you mentioned
0:26:24.700,0:26:28.929
Andrew Jackson like towards the end of
0:26:27.399,0:26:30.609
it and then also that the Native
0:26:28.929,0:26:33.279
Americans suffered the most so Trail of
0:26:30.609,0:26:34.929
Tears is that related to this at all I
0:26:33.279,0:26:37.479
don’t really know much about the Trail
0:26:34.929,0:26:40.839
of Tears other than Andrew Jackson did
0:26:37.479,0:26:42.369
it and it was a really sad point yeah so
0:26:40.839,0:26:45.820
actually honestly we should cover that
0:26:42.369,0:26:47.829
in one of our next episodes but yeah so
0:26:45.820,0:26:51.039
Andrew Jackson at this time he’s a
0:26:47.829,0:26:53.829
general in the war and like he gains a
0:26:51.039,0:26:55.509
lot of I guess like natural recognition
0:26:53.829,0:26:58.089
and people are like well he’s a war hero
0:26:55.509,0:27:00.279
and so that’s what what helps him win
0:26:58.089,0:27:03.399
presidency but Trail of Tears and isn’t
0:27:00.279,0:27:05.710
until after he assumed power is u.s.
0:27:03.399,0:27:09.010
president and it was
0:27:05.710,0:27:11.350
basically basically what happened like
0:27:09.010,0:27:13.990
just totally dude brief summary like the
0:27:11.350,0:27:15.340
u.s. wanted to acquire all this Native
0:27:13.990,0:27:18.670
American territory that was spread
0:27:15.340,0:27:21.670
across the country and so they force the
0:27:18.670,0:27:25.180
American tribes to relocate to the Great
0:27:21.670,0:27:26.950
Plains so then like white settlers could
0:27:25.180,0:27:30.340
live in their lands until they literally
0:27:26.950,0:27:32.500
force them to like walk um like hundreds
0:27:30.340,0:27:34.840
of thousand miles and so many Native
0:27:32.500,0:27:38.620
Americans died on the way because it’s a
0:27:34.840,0:27:41.920
really like awful journey yeah I just
0:27:38.620,0:27:44.260
did the road trip back from the west of
0:27:41.920,0:27:45.670
the East that’s not a joke I was like
0:27:44.260,0:27:49.120
why would anyone ever want to walk
0:27:45.670,0:27:51.520
through like Nevada or Nebraska for this
0:27:49.120,0:27:54.460
long it’s really the long way he
0:27:51.520,0:27:59.260
definitely did not have a choice in that
0:27:54.460,0:28:01.540
and yeah so I mean I don’t I think I’m
0:27:59.260,0:28:04.090
assuming that Andy Jackson always kind
0:28:01.540,0:28:06.430
of had these views since he was like
0:28:04.090,0:28:10.690
younger but I don’t know if this war
0:28:06.430,0:28:13.540
kind of helped fuel his views that was
0:28:10.690,0:28:16.570
later Lee yeah but um yeah so we should
0:28:13.540,0:28:18.730
come later yeah I’ll take that one up
0:28:16.570,0:28:21.610
since I brought it up I’ll cover it
0:28:18.730,0:28:25.720
right everyone stay tuned for that but
0:28:21.610,0:28:27.310
hey awesome so actually yeah so the in
0:28:25.720,0:28:30.430
regards to the Native American
0:28:27.310,0:28:32.410
perspective so the Native Americans once
0:28:30.430,0:28:34.420
again lost many lives and a lot of
0:28:32.410,0:28:36.550
territories at the hands of American
0:28:34.420,0:28:38.980
soldiers and to come so one of their
0:28:36.550,0:28:42.070
most notable heroes dies in the conflict
0:28:38.980,0:28:44.740
and so the defeat of succumb saw and the
0:28:42.070,0:28:47.320
Indian Confederation or Prophetstown in
0:28:44.740,0:28:50.260
this whole vision of uniting Native
0:28:47.320,0:28:52.780
American tribes um hit that defeat would
0:28:50.260,0:28:54.430
be seen as a decisive turning point and
0:28:52.780,0:28:56.860
they’re losing struggle to govern
0:28:54.430,0:28:59.740
themselves and stand up against the US
0:28:56.860,0:29:01.300
government so that’s kind of how it’s
0:28:59.740,0:29:03.550
remembered from the Native American
0:29:01.300,0:29:06.640
perspective and like we talked about
0:29:03.550,0:29:08.950
earlier for Canadians the war of 1812 is
0:29:06.640,0:29:12.010
a cornerstone of nationhood and it’s
0:29:08.950,0:29:13.930
talked about a lot lot more and it shows
0:29:12.010,0:29:16.090
that they’re this warlike shows that
0:29:13.930,0:29:18.010
they’re not only a distinct nation from
0:29:16.090,0:29:19.190
America but also that they’re strong
0:29:18.010,0:29:21.230
enough to
0:29:19.190,0:29:24.440
luckily defeat an American attack and
0:29:21.230,0:29:29.020
are actually able to invade the US and
0:29:24.440,0:29:32.120
seize the nation’s capital and yeah so
0:29:29.020,0:29:33.730
Canadians are very proud of this moment
0:29:32.120,0:29:36.230
because yeah they’re like okay we’re not
0:29:33.730,0:29:38.060
we’re not the same as America like we’re
0:29:36.230,0:29:40.070
two different nations we need to be
0:29:38.060,0:29:43.970
regarded as two different nations we
0:29:40.070,0:29:45.890
have different values and yeah and like
0:29:43.970,0:29:50.660
me yeah we might be polite but it
0:29:45.890,0:29:52.160
doesn’t mean were weak that’s true I
0:29:50.660,0:29:53.390
wonder if that should be like a saying
0:29:52.160,0:29:57.110
Rick Canadians
0:29:53.390,0:30:04.190
yeah but not weak polite but not
0:29:57.110,0:30:06.530
pushovers yeah too much yeah yeah and so
0:30:04.190,0:30:08.240
that’s basically a very brief summary of
0:30:06.530,0:30:11.510
the war of 1812 there are so many
0:30:08.240,0:30:13.820
battles that I I don’t know how to talk
0:30:11.510,0:30:16.060
about like battles so if you’re
0:30:13.820,0:30:18.290
interested there’s so much information
0:30:16.060,0:30:20.990
available on the Internet but yeah
0:30:18.290,0:30:24.650
that’s basically a brief summary of the
0:30:20.990,0:30:26.330
war of 1812 okay thank you now I really
0:30:24.650,0:30:28.490
I appreciate that you like to cover the
0:30:26.330,0:30:30.650
wars I just had a conversation with my
0:30:28.490,0:30:32.900
sister and she was like yeah not always
0:30:30.650,0:30:35.180
covers the war that’s really good and I
0:30:32.900,0:30:37.730
struggle to cover things that aren’t
0:30:35.180,0:30:42.260
tech related or like science and stuff
0:30:37.730,0:30:45.500
so thank you for covering this yeah yeah
0:30:42.260,0:30:47.270
I was I kind of was a little reluctant
0:30:45.500,0:30:51.890
to start my research just because I was
0:30:47.270,0:30:55.730
like early 1800s it’s so boring but such
0:30:51.890,0:30:58.790
a wild part of US history and yeah it
0:30:55.730,0:31:00.650
was it’s an interesting war rate and the
0:30:58.790,0:31:02.600
title doesn’t give it away you just call
0:31:00.650,0:31:05.240
it the war of 1812 that doesn’t tell you
0:31:02.600,0:31:07.610
anything significant about it yeah
0:31:05.240,0:31:09.680
that’s a time period right if you could
0:31:07.610,0:31:12.050
rename the war what would you rename it
0:31:09.680,0:31:14.210
oh my gosh that’s a great question
0:31:12.050,0:31:16.820
like something I need to do something
0:31:14.210,0:31:20.240
about like Canada and beating us and
0:31:16.820,0:31:23.000
yeah something like the the Canadian war
0:31:20.240,0:31:25.850
or something like that I feel like
0:31:23.000,0:31:27.620
that’s a great the Canadian war because
0:31:25.850,0:31:28.150
I just have a hard time seeing Canadians
0:31:27.620,0:31:31.200
wanting
0:31:28.150,0:31:33.910
to have a war with us yeah yeah I think
0:31:31.200,0:31:35.920
America’s PR team at the time when they
0:31:33.910,0:31:39.520
decided to name this war they really
0:31:35.920,0:31:41.830
need a lesson on clickbait catchy name
0:31:39.520,0:31:44.080
I’m gonna click on more everything’s all
0:31:41.830,0:31:46.000
we need but it’s kind of embarrassing
0:31:44.080,0:31:48.760
for us maybe the Canadians have a
0:31:46.000,0:31:53.080
different name for it like the time we
0:31:48.760,0:31:55.960
beat the u.s. we our greatest moment in
0:31:53.080,0:31:59.680
history would it like the Canadian
0:31:55.960,0:32:02.470
Revolution or something oh my god the
0:31:59.680,0:32:08.110
great canadian victory yeah yeah if you
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