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Show Notes
Murder, drugs, and soup kitchens? In this episode, Jac takes you through the history of the Mafia and explains the business tactics that brought them riches.
Sources:
https://www.history.com/topics/crime/origins-of-the-mafia
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Five-Families
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/timeline-new-york-city-crime-families-article-1.376401
https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/organized-crime/history-of-la-cosa-nostra
Transcript
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hello everyone welcome to another
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episode of how did we not know that my
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name is Matt my name is Jack and today
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Jack is gonna talk to us about another
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very interesting topic yeah okay so
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today we’re talking about the Mafia oh
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my god Shh
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okay so just start out I like to ask NAT
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tell me what you know about the Mafia
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yeah so I feel like my knowledge of the
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Mafia is pretty much based on what I’ve
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seen in movies um I feel like I hear a
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lot about the Italian mafia also like
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growing up in Chicago I hear a lot about
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Al Capone but yeah I feel like it’s
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pretty much just like whatever Hollywood
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has taught me definitely
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yeah well Al Capone is a big guy we’re
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going to talk about him but there are
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multiple mafia is there’s like the
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Jewish mafia the Mexican Mafia the
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Italian mafia the Italian American mob
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yeah so there’s a bunch of different
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types the Irish mafia which the head of
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that the weird this is an Italian
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there’s an Irish mafia was like
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comprised of Irishmen but then the
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bosses at mafia was actually Italian
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really you change his last name – Kelly
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just talk more Irish so they lots of
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different mafias but the one that is
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romanticized a lot in films like The
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Godfather and shows like that I don’t
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know Godfather is like a filmer show
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never saw it but um at least to them the
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movie okay yeah so in Hollywood the
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romanticized version of them off yeah is
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usually on the Italian American Mafia
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and that’s what we’re primarily going to
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focus on today but with the Italian
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American Mafia bad did it’s actually
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completely separate from the Italian
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mafia but it also was started from the
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Italian mafia so gotcha start off okay I
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guess yeah it bridged off but then they
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ended up being kind of separate entities
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so that was something when I was finding
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along my research was that you should
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they’re not the same thing so you should
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completely like separate the two but one
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led to the formation of the other to go
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back we’re gonna start with the rise of
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the Italian mafia which began in the
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19th century which is the 1800s and
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Sicily Italy so Sicily juniper Sicily is
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is that the boot the boot is Italy but
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there’s like people call it the rock
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that the boot is kicking ah okay okay
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yeah so what’s that island in the
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Mediterranean Sea and so this wasn’t
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actually ruled by like Italy until later
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on for a while it was just constantly
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ruled by foreign invaders so tons of
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people we’re trying to take it over like
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the Phoenicians the Romans the French
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the Spanish everyone’s trying to have
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have control of Sicily so they’re
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violent and chaotic conditions on the
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island so what happened was residents of
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the island started to take like safety
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into their own hands and they form these
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small clans or groups that would just
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protect themselves and so at first like
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the purpose of the Mafia wasn’t
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organized crime but it was just like
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citizens taking protections into their
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own hands yeah so then they develop
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their own system for justice and they
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started to offer their protections for
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money from other landowners on Sicily
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eventually they started to gain more
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local power and influence when uh after
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like in 1861 Sicily becomes a province
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of unified Italy and they still just
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take justice into their own hands
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because the Italian government is still
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not very organized at that time so
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actually the Italian government and also
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the Catholic Church will turn to these
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smaller clans and groups that start to
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become known as the Mafia that help
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enforce yeah enforce certain rules on
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different areas of Sicily so even the
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Catholic Church yeah even the Catholic
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Church was involved in using them and
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also like so what happened was
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the government would seek out the
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Mafia’s help to catch certain criminals
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and the extreme for that was that the
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government will let them carry out other
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organized crime oh god they were just
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yeah they look the other way yeah so
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that’s pretty much how the Italian mafia
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started to rise and then we start to get
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into how they migrated to America
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so the first immigrant to come to the
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United States from Sicily who was a part
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of the mafia is juice at bay is Fox at
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OU and he fled to New York after
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murdering 11 wealthy landowners and the
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Chancellor and Vice Chancellor of
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Sicilian Provost yeah so and he wasn’t
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the only one to I think there were he
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had a I think there are six other
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Sicilians who were part of mafia that
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fled with him but he’s the first one
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that came to the United States and he
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ended up in New Orleans so Louisiana and
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he continued to do his organized crime
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situation till he was caught by
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detective David Hennessy who actually
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caught him and killed him or did
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imported him actually my notes are
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unclear what happened but he was caught
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by detective David Hennessy and the
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mafia games in New Orleans in New York
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are spreading anyways and so whatever
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happened to Jesus MA
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whether he was killed or deported or
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just jailed they started to they wanted
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to rebel on detective David Hennessy
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so they actually ended up hunting down
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detective
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David Hennessy and killing him so they
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yeah it’s my notes the getting’s the
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murdered Hennessy who is now the
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superintendent of the Chief of Police on
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October 15th 1987 so that was their way
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of so this is in the 80s Wow okay yeah
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oh no sorry not 1987 this is wrong
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probably 1887 okay okay not 1987 yeah no
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that’s yeah this is in the 80s of 1800
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okay so the gangs murdered detective
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David Hennessy and that was their way of
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getting revenge on him for taking out at
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you step a who I’m pretty sure was
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actually a boss of one of the first
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mafia gangs no kidding man yeah one of
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yeah one of the first ones I mean
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there’s a lot of small gangs right so to
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be like a boss of one is like they’re
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smaller in size Al Capone
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what we think of today with like Al
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Capone it’s like a huge like Q ISM we’ll
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get into it later but he was like the
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boss of the Chicago Outfit which was
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like the biggest thing in Chicago and
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that’s after the gang start to get
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unified but during this time they’re all
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still like kind of small clans Wow okay
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gotcha yeah so after they murder
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detective David Hennessy the New Orleans
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police like step it up so they start
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arresting a lot of Sicilians whether or
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not they are or not part of the mafia
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they just arrests them and have them
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tried so 19 Sicilian men got tried but
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they all got acquitted four were the
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crimes that were committed and then
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during this time too because of the
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Mafia a lot of local citizens started to
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develop like feelings of anti-italian
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ISM
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yeah and they started to call for more
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restrictions of Italian immigrants but
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an angry mob on March 14 1891 formed and
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they broke into the prison to basically
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Lynch the men who had been on trial for
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the murder of detective Hennessy and so
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11 out of 19 became lynched and there a
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few sources I differ but this has been
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debated as to one of the largest like
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public lynchings in American history I’m
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sure there’s more but yeah 11 out of 19
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and we they may or may not have been
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part of the Mafia wow that’s that’s
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awful that’s really yeah pretty sad but
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then because of that the Mafia becomes a
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more discussed dialogue in America so
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yeah I
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this the Mafia is still doing their
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thing for the next 30 to 40 years and
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then when we hit the 1920s we start to
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see an increase in immigration and
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growth in the Mafia italian-american
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mafia because back in Italy
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Prime Minister Benito Mussolini launches
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a crackdown on mobsters so because of
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that benito mussolini felt like they
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were going to affect the fascist regime
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so they started to really try out it
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arrest them and stop down the Mafia so
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this is why more mafia members start to
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immigrate to the United States ah all
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right
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and then so okay we have more mafia
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coming and the types of crimes that they
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would commit to make money are still in
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the realm of traditional crimes and this
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is why people say that the American
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Italian mafia is different from the
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Italian mafia because the Italian mafia
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started for land protections and they
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basically took advantage of land owners
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but the American Italian mafia made
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money through more traditional crimes
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like gambling prostitution rackets
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burglary and extortion which is getting
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money through threats and there was also
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a very popular what’s it called a very
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popular practice called black hand
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racket so I don’t know if you remember
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from like those old movies I’ll get like
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a cryptic note and it’s got like those
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letters like give us money or will I
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kill you or something like that so
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that’s that’s black hand racketing okay
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uh-huh
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and they would actually send these to
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ethnic Italians with threats of death
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and/or violence
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oh my god yeah I don’t know why they did
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it to like fellow Italians but oh wait
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you bring it in the circle so yeah so
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just like random people they just send
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it I’ll be like hey give us money
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yeah just random cryptic notes to people
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and try to get money from them and
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that’s how they made their money like
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because the the Mafia in Italy was
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trying to protect like oh they’re
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Italian yeah
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started trying to protect ya other
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landowners will they protected Lyon
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overs in exchange for money but then
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they eventually become more violent but
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in America it was very much doing
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organized crimes to make money in the
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entire time
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Wow yeah it wasn’t protection and then
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let me think yeah okay so there’s
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something I wanted to do with this black
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hand racket
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hmm okay Oh actually yeah no I know what
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does gonna say so I think I liked
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looking into their traditional crimes
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because we I think they get very
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glamorized in the movies like oh the
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Mafia they’re so cool but this sound is
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terrible like the prostitution rackets
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think about all those little sex slaves
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that you read about in third-world
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countries or less developed countries
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and it’s terrible conditions and that’s
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the same situation like pimps are not a
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cool thing a lot of Italians are running
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that yeah you don’t know that in the
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movies as much it’s mostly just like oh
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I don’t know hey threats
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yeah exports yeah like they seem like
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they’re just gonna beat up each other
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and it’s fighting but it’s it’s that and
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a lot more abuse to like women as well
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made me pretty uncomfortable yeah
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anyways so 1920 we’re getting a lot more
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mafia growth and another thing that
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circuits in the 1920s is the Prohibition
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and the prohibition change the way the
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Mafia ran for forever this is where the
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Mafia really really got rich so within
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the first three months a half million
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dollars in whiskey was stolen from
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government warehouse and today that’s
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over 6.4 million dollars in the first
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three months of prohibition that’s what
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they stole so they made lots of money
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through illegal import manufacturing and
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sale of alcohols
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this is called rum running or
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bootlegging and they would get away with
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it just by bribing policemen judges
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juries witnesses politicians etc and
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that’s basically why the Mafia was able
0:13:24.640,0:13:29.830
to thrive as they made so much money off
0:13:27.850,0:13:32.560
of prohibition that they could afford to
0:13:29.830,0:13:34.420
have to pay off politicians they had a
0:13:32.560,0:13:38.350
lot of connections with government as
0:13:34.420,0:13:39.610
well Wow yeah that’s yeah that’s another
0:13:38.350,0:13:42.010
thing that like I think of when I think
0:13:39.610,0:13:44.230
of the Mafia like oh they’re like they
0:13:42.010,0:13:45.940
have all these deals with like local
0:13:44.230,0:13:49.450
government officials and like law
0:13:45.940,0:13:51.370
enforcement so a lot of like shady yeah
0:13:49.450,0:13:53.380
partnership definitely yeah
0:13:51.370,0:13:54.760
and before then right the maca doesn’t
0:13:53.380,0:13:56.290
have that much money you do make a
0:13:54.760,0:13:58.750
little bit of money from traditional
0:13:56.290,0:14:01.210
crimes but it’s nothing like millions of
0:13:58.750,0:14:03.160
dollars you get from bootlegging so once
0:14:01.210,0:14:05.500
they have more money they definitely
0:14:03.160,0:14:12.089
acquired a lot more power and influence
0:14:05.500,0:14:14.920
um so prohibition is happening and the
0:14:12.089,0:14:16.720
competition for bootlegging is getting
0:14:14.920,0:14:19.720
really intense so then we see a rise in
0:14:16.720,0:14:21.700
turf wars which is just different types
0:14:19.720,0:14:24.790
of mafia gangs fighting each other for
0:14:21.700,0:14:28.570
control of the bootlegging industry so
0:14:24.790,0:14:30.310
in New York City which I would say from
0:14:28.570,0:14:32.800
my research there’s two really big
0:14:30.310,0:14:36.850
hotspots it’s New York and Chicago where
0:14:32.800,0:14:41.830
the mafia is and in New York City the
0:14:36.850,0:14:46.180
two biggest gangs are joe masseria’s
0:14:41.830,0:14:49.060
gang and salvatore a Mara Mara and Zano
0:14:46.180,0:14:53.080
salvatore maranzano so these are the two
0:14:49.060,0:14:56.589
big these names are gonna be my grandma
0:14:53.080,0:15:00.370
would be very very ashamed these two
0:14:56.589,0:15:04.630
gangs are like the main ones in
0:15:00.370,0:15:07.589
competition and in February 1930 they
0:15:04.630,0:15:11.080
have what’s called the Castel Ahmad
0:15:07.589,0:15:14.790
Ricci castle Emery sea war and that
0:15:11.080,0:15:17.200
lasts from February 1932 April 1931 and
0:15:14.790,0:15:19.510
that’s just the gangs fighting each
0:15:17.200,0:15:23.380
other for control of the rum running
0:15:19.510,0:15:26.230
bootlegging industry and and it finally
0:15:23.380,0:15:31.060
ends in April 1931 when Masseria is
0:15:26.230,0:15:34.209
murdered and then modern Zano who was
0:15:31.060,0:15:35.890
the other guy comes into power and these
0:15:34.209,0:15:38.230
turf wars are really violent and it’s
0:15:35.890,0:15:40.150
really just hurting you know Duke gang
0:15:38.230,0:15:41.830
members it’s not very productive so
0:15:40.150,0:15:44.230
Maranzano comes up with the idea to
0:15:41.830,0:15:46.900
unify the Mafia the gangs of New York
0:15:44.230,0:15:48.760
and then establish territory so now each
0:15:46.900,0:15:52.450
gang can operate in their own territory
0:15:48.760,0:15:54.370
and not affect each other right so a
0:15:52.450,0:15:58.450
little bit of collaboration going on
0:15:54.370,0:16:00.190
come in again yeah like they have their
0:15:58.450,0:16:01.480
really good businessman actually if you
0:16:00.190,0:16:04.940
look at all the things they do they’re
0:16:01.480,0:16:07.320
definitely I
0:16:04.940,0:16:10.920
from a business perspective I was like
0:16:07.320,0:16:14.070
this is a good idea that was a good move
0:16:10.920,0:16:14.880
okay so Maranzano unifies the mafia
0:16:14.070,0:16:17.070
gangs of New York
0:16:14.880,0:16:20.850
into what’s known as the five families
0:16:17.070,0:16:24.060
and the five family is our Bonanno
0:16:20.850,0:16:27.330
Colombo Gambino Genovese see and Lou
0:16:24.060,0:16:29.850
Ches a and I just want to know that
0:16:27.330,0:16:31.800
these are not actually their family name
0:16:29.850,0:16:33.600
what do I look further into it and
0:16:31.800,0:16:36.600
they’re definitely not the family’s
0:16:33.600,0:16:38.100
actual names like say the families that
0:16:36.600,0:16:40.260
ran these gangs this is like their
0:16:38.100,0:16:43.530
codename because I’m dumb you make your
0:16:40.260,0:16:46.230
actual last name yeah that doesn’t make
0:16:43.530,0:16:49.920
sense well it looks like we’re just in
0:16:46.230,0:16:54.930
case yeah exactly yeah so they’re
0:16:49.920,0:16:58.380
operating under pseudonyms okay okay so
0:16:54.930,0:17:01.350
now they’re unified and within six
0:16:58.380,0:17:03.510
months of the unification of them
0:17:01.350,0:17:05.520
mountains ah no is the head of the five
0:17:03.510,0:17:06.990
family so they all agree under him and
0:17:05.520,0:17:10.350
they all have to pay him a little bit of
0:17:06.990,0:17:11.520
money I don’t know why but they’re
0:17:10.350,0:17:18.750
paying him a little bit of money to
0:17:11.520,0:17:23.120
operate and Maranzano has a right-hand
0:17:18.750,0:17:27.660
man named Charles Lucky Luciano and
0:17:23.120,0:17:29.750
Lucky Luciano is like evil this guy is
0:17:27.660,0:17:32.760
so evil no thank you
0:17:29.750,0:17:34.680
yeah he’s very very famous he ends up
0:17:32.760,0:17:37.410
murdering men and Donal within six
0:17:34.680,0:17:39.930
months and he then becomes the head of
0:17:37.410,0:17:42.750
the five families and actually so
0:17:39.930,0:17:45.510
Charles is Charles like the wheat yeah
0:17:42.750,0:17:47.760
should I call him like lucky or Luciano
0:17:45.510,0:17:51.840
for this okay so what kind lucky for the
0:17:47.760,0:17:54.720
rest of this but lucky basically he was
0:17:51.840,0:17:58.080
under my studio which was the master
0:17:54.720,0:17:59.700
yeah who is like one guy and the ma
0:17:58.080,0:18:01.260
Surya gets murdered and then he works
0:17:59.700,0:18:03.300
for Ramona and Zano and then he murders
0:18:01.260,0:18:06.210
Maranzano and it assumes the head of the
0:18:03.300,0:18:09.120
five families but lucky actually was the
0:18:06.210,0:18:11.540
one who also helped murder the first guy
0:18:09.120,0:18:14.820
that he was working under which was line
0:18:11.540,0:18:17.160
yeah so he murdered one of the bosses
0:18:14.820,0:18:18.429
then he murdered the second boss that
0:18:17.160,0:18:25.600
took over and then
0:18:18.429,0:18:28.690
he’s my god so he’s diabolical so now
0:18:25.600,0:18:30.909
he’s the boss and he’s doing well makes
0:18:28.690,0:18:34.119
a lot of money driven by power and greed
0:18:30.909,0:18:36.759
run into New York and in 1936 Luciano
0:18:34.119,0:18:39.249
finally gets arrested for operating a
0:18:36.759,0:18:43.059
prostitution ring and then he said since
0:18:39.249,0:18:47.110
250 years he only serves 10 and then
0:18:43.059,0:18:50.080
gets deported back to Italy yeah so
0:18:47.110,0:18:52.149
mm-hmm and that’s the end of basically
0:18:50.080,0:18:55.330
Luciano’s days I think that he’s still
0:18:52.149,0:18:59.139
operating remotely in Italy but yeah
0:18:55.330,0:19:01.629
when he goes back to Italy yeah I think
0:18:59.139,0:19:03.999
he he did something remote I don’t even
0:19:01.629,0:19:05.860
know who took over after him because
0:19:03.999,0:19:08.320
that would have he would have been done
0:19:05.860,0:19:10.600
in 1936 and the five families are still
0:19:08.320,0:19:12.190
running today so I’ll get into that at
0:19:10.600,0:19:15.490
the end but the Mafia still exists today
0:19:12.190,0:19:21.549
they didn’t go anywhere mark you’re
0:19:15.490,0:19:23.019
listening please anatec cos all right so
0:19:21.549,0:19:26.619
that’s New York now we’re gonna go to
0:19:23.019,0:19:29.590
Chicago which is where my Italian family
0:19:26.619,0:19:31.629
migrated so at first I thought oh maybe
0:19:29.590,0:19:33.490
my families are part of the mafia but
0:19:31.629,0:19:35.740
actually actually like after doing
0:19:33.490,0:19:38.289
research I was like I pray that they
0:19:35.740,0:19:40.029
were not at all involved because this is
0:19:38.289,0:19:41.590
terrible stuff and I hope that they
0:19:40.029,0:19:42.850
never had to go through this I hope no
0:19:41.590,0:19:44.730
one in my family committed these crimes
0:19:42.850,0:19:47.200
yeah
0:19:44.730,0:19:52.029
glamorize in Hollywood but they’re
0:19:47.200,0:19:54.309
actually not people at all yeah right so
0:19:52.029,0:19:57.659
in Chicago there’s also these turf wars
0:19:54.309,0:20:00.070
rising up fight for territories and
0:19:57.659,0:20:03.039
there are two gangs that are pretty
0:20:00.070,0:20:04.809
powerful once called the outfit and the
0:20:03.039,0:20:09.159
other one was called the North Side gang
0:20:04.809,0:20:11.980
and in 1929 there is a big event called
0:20:09.159,0:20:14.110
the st. Valentine’s Day Massacre I’ve
0:20:11.980,0:20:15.759
heard of this I’ve heard of this oh nice
0:20:14.110,0:20:17.919
okay yeah cuz you’re from Chicago
0:20:15.759,0:20:20.730
so like what have you heard about it
0:20:17.919,0:20:23.559
tell me more just like a lot of people
0:20:20.730,0:20:25.990
is it like a restaurant or something and
0:20:23.559,0:20:28.559
then or like a party or something like
0:20:25.990,0:20:31.389
really public gathering and then like
0:20:28.559,0:20:32.230
one gang infiltrates like the other is
0:20:31.389,0:20:34.150
territory and
0:20:32.230,0:20:37.840
kills a lot of people right yeah
0:20:34.150,0:20:42.400
basically yeah so it way is the outfit
0:20:37.840,0:20:44.110
which is uh actually out the gang net Al
0:20:42.400,0:20:47.440
Capone was a part of which we’ll hear a
0:20:44.110,0:20:50.440
lot about later but that gang dressed up
0:20:47.440,0:20:52.750
disguised as policemen and they went to
0:20:50.440,0:20:55.240
the Lincoln Park garage which is like
0:20:52.750,0:20:57.130
pretty public area and just lined up to
0:20:55.240,0:21:01.180
the other gang members and shot them all
0:20:57.130,0:21:04.450
down so they murdered total of seven men
0:21:01.180,0:21:07.570
from the North Side gang and the worst
0:21:04.450,0:21:10.240
part about it is no one was charged so
0:21:07.570,0:21:13.590
they completely got away from that the
0:21:10.240,0:21:16.510
most like bloody massacre oh my seeing
0:21:13.590,0:21:21.310
everyone’s unscathed Wow what the heck
0:21:16.510,0:21:23.620
it was wild right so then the outfit the
0:21:21.310,0:21:26.260
opposite is the one who won that yeah
0:21:23.620,0:21:29.650
shoot about and the outfit is run by Al
0:21:26.260,0:21:32.110
Capone and John Torrio and they work
0:21:29.650,0:21:35.710
together to after that to unify all the
0:21:32.110,0:21:38.140
gangs in Chicago as one okay yeah and
0:21:35.710,0:21:40.630
then so eventually John retires to go
0:21:38.140,0:21:43.170
back to Italy and this was when Al
0:21:40.630,0:21:45.900
Capone probably one of the most famous
0:21:43.170,0:21:50.500
mafia members takes over
0:21:45.900,0:21:54.370
so the Chicago Outfit is the name of the
0:21:50.500,0:21:55.990
gang he’s running and it is probably the
0:21:54.370,0:22:01.630
most powerful and well known gang of
0:21:55.990,0:22:03.040
Chicago and he basically just does a
0:22:01.630,0:22:08.610
really good job from a business
0:22:03.040,0:22:11.110
perspective as well profiting off of the
0:22:08.610,0:22:12.970
prohibition and then later the Great
0:22:11.110,0:22:18.910
Depression they made profits off of that
0:22:12.970,0:22:22.180
so during his peak the height of the
0:22:18.910,0:22:24.910
late 1920s where they’re operating they
0:22:22.180,0:22:29.700
have an estimated revenue of a hundred
0:22:24.910,0:22:32.470
million and I ate about 1.4 billion in
0:22:29.700,0:22:35.380
that would be 1.4 billion in 2016 so
0:22:32.470,0:22:37.110
roughly that in today’s terms and that
0:22:35.380,0:22:39.550
was all from liquor distribution
0:22:37.110,0:22:42.550
speakeasies beer brewery and gambling
0:22:39.550,0:22:45.400
prostitution in other rackets that’s a
0:22:42.550,0:22:49.660
shame it’s a lot of money Billy
0:22:45.400,0:22:53.680
with a bee so it’s an insane amount of
0:22:49.660,0:22:55.420
money for that time and a good thing al
0:22:53.680,0:22:58.180
capone did though during the Great
0:22:55.420,0:23:01.780
Depression whereas he opened the first
0:22:58.180,0:23:03.940
soup kitchen in Chicago kidding yeah so
0:23:01.780,0:23:08.620
that got me feeling a bunch of different
0:23:03.940,0:23:16.270
ways man of the people but also imparted
0:23:08.620,0:23:19.630
everyone oh my god and actually I’ll get
0:23:16.270,0:23:21.640
into this again but Al Capone was kind
0:23:19.630,0:23:23.470
of a calm guy like he didn’t really cost
0:23:21.640,0:23:25.350
you went to trouble in when he was
0:23:23.470,0:23:29.740
serving his term he’s not a violent guy
0:23:25.350,0:23:33.310
didn’t cause yeah he wasn’t in yeah I’ll
0:23:29.740,0:23:36.640
talk about this so basically his first
0:23:33.310,0:23:39.160
criminal conviction is in May of 1929
0:23:36.640,0:23:42.120
and it was in Philadelphia where he was
0:23:39.160,0:23:46.810
caught carrying a concealed weapon oh
0:23:42.120,0:23:48.970
right yeah that’s it so that’s what he
0:23:46.810,0:23:51.220
gets criminally convicted and he’s
0:23:48.970,0:23:55.120
convicted for a year he gets freed in
0:23:51.220,0:23:57.190
March of 1930 but then a month later the
0:23:55.120,0:23:59.140
Chicago Crime Commission released its
0:23:57.190,0:24:02.020
first ever list of the festivities worst
0:23:59.140,0:24:03.040
criminals and Capone his name public
0:24:02.020,0:24:07.740
enemy number one
0:24:03.040,0:24:10.450
oh right so the nation is like this guy
0:24:07.740,0:24:12.850
not our friend everyone look out for him
0:24:10.450,0:24:14.950
and I think Herbert Hoover who you know
0:24:12.850,0:24:17.140
was president during this time was
0:24:14.950,0:24:19.270
trying to do a crackdown on the Mafia as
0:24:17.140,0:24:20.920
well so that’s why he publicized that Al
0:24:19.270,0:24:23.050
Capone was public enemy number one
0:24:20.920,0:24:24.840
because he’s a very well-known crime
0:24:23.050,0:24:28.300
boss Oh
0:24:24.840,0:24:31.630
so anyways he’s public enemy number one
0:24:28.300,0:24:33.970
in 1931 he gets indicated or addicted on
0:24:31.630,0:24:36.610
charges of tax evasion which is
0:24:33.970,0:24:44.020
something I will probably go to the jail
0:24:36.610,0:24:45.820
for one one day but anyway I was reading
0:24:44.020,0:24:47.680
this and I was like wow maybe I don’t
0:24:45.820,0:24:51.490
want to be related to Al Capone but
0:24:47.680,0:24:53.890
wouldn’t be surprised because okay what
0:24:51.490,0:24:55.070
the maquiladora businessman like I don’t
0:24:53.890,0:24:57.680
disagree
0:24:55.070,0:25:00.020
literally I was like this is really they
0:24:57.680,0:25:03.080
made 1.4 billion in profit and evaded
0:25:00.020,0:25:05.840
taxes which I I pay my taxes just like
0:25:03.080,0:25:08.060
to clarify I’m not evading them but if
0:25:05.840,0:25:09.950
there’s any crime I would do I’m not
0:25:08.060,0:25:12.920
gonna murder anyone it’s most likely
0:25:09.950,0:25:15.920
gonna be tax evasion for me oh boy now
0:25:12.920,0:25:17.600
the IRS is good I know like they’re
0:25:15.920,0:25:21.320
gonna audit me and be like this girl
0:25:17.600,0:25:26.480
okay I file my taxes let me say that
0:25:21.320,0:25:29.480
right now okay so yes he goes to jail
0:25:26.480,0:25:32.660
for a tax evasion and he’s sentenced to
0:25:29.480,0:25:36.710
11 years in prison and fined 50,000 USD
0:25:32.660,0:25:39.200
which is only about 700 thousand USD in
0:25:36.710,0:25:42.260
today’s terms but they compared to how
0:25:39.200,0:25:44.690
much money he’s been like profiting like
0:25:42.260,0:25:47.840
right it’s a drop in the bucket it’s not
0:25:44.690,0:25:49.850
anything so he first serves in Atlanta
0:25:47.840,0:25:52.370
for two years and this is where I was
0:25:49.850,0:25:55.100
like he’s a calm dude so from what I’ve
0:25:52.370,0:25:56.810
read on his time serving in Atlanta he
0:25:55.100,0:25:59.600
didn’t cause much trouble trying to
0:25:56.810,0:26:03.880
disturb his term very quietly until he
0:25:59.600,0:26:09.530
was sent to Alcatraz in 1934 and yeah
0:26:03.880,0:26:10.970
Alcatraz and they said to that since he
0:26:09.530,0:26:12.680
didn’t cause any trouble they think
0:26:10.970,0:26:13.850
sending him to Alcatraz was more of a
0:26:12.680,0:26:16.310
publicity stunt
0:26:13.850,0:26:18.770
yeah like the works people get sent to
0:26:16.310,0:26:23.540
Alcatraz and like Al Capone’s at
0:26:18.770,0:26:26.690
Alcatraz but here’s calm dude and so
0:26:23.540,0:26:29.330
he’s in Alcatraz from 1934 until 1939
0:26:26.690,0:26:31.220
where he’s released so he only served
0:26:29.330,0:26:33.020
about four and a half years in Alcatraz
0:26:31.220,0:26:35.240
in addition to like his two years in
0:26:33.020,0:26:37.790
Atlanta we didn’t serve the full 11
0:26:35.240,0:26:39.920
years and he was released because he was
0:26:37.790,0:26:42.710
suffering from syphilis so he was a
0:26:39.920,0:26:46.880
really bad shape yeah mentally
0:26:42.710,0:26:49.190
physically not doing well yeah and he
0:26:46.880,0:26:50.780
ended up going to a house that he bought
0:26:49.190,0:26:54.050
in Florida and kind of just playing
0:26:50.780,0:26:57.020
cards till the end of his days when he
0:26:54.050,0:27:02.870
finally dies from a heart attack in 1947
0:26:57.020,0:27:05.840
and has been buried in Chicago Wow is it
0:27:02.870,0:27:07.460
like a mark grave I wonder it should be
0:27:05.840,0:27:08.360
it should be like a thing I’m surprised
0:27:07.460,0:27:11.450
you haven’t heard of it
0:27:08.360,0:27:13.429
getting say I guess like maybe people
0:27:11.450,0:27:16.970
would know about it I feel like I should
0:27:13.429,0:27:20.270
know this where is it I’m gonna look it
0:27:16.970,0:27:22.100
up it was by cemetery but yeah and by
0:27:20.270,0:27:23.809
the time he died he would have amassed a
0:27:22.100,0:27:27.049
net worth of a hundred million dollars
0:27:23.809,0:27:30.830
which is eighteen point six billion and
0:27:27.049,0:27:33.470
oh my gosh
0:27:30.830,0:27:35.690
right so they are I can’t like
0:27:33.470,0:27:37.940
comprehend them which one I know oh
0:27:35.690,0:27:40.690
right I was like Lord if I could make a
0:27:37.940,0:27:43.040
billion dollars in my lifetime really
0:27:40.690,0:27:46.880
accomplished well okay
0:27:43.040,0:27:49.790
wait I know I’m very very torn because
0:27:46.880,0:27:52.640
I’m like Al Capone not a good guy but
0:27:49.790,0:27:55.940
then again I admire the soup kitchen I
0:27:52.640,0:27:59.179
admire the business tax evasion and I
0:27:55.940,0:28:03.230
have to say John Mayer like I’m
0:27:59.179,0:28:06.320
impressed with it yeah well you know
0:28:03.230,0:28:07.040
what fuckin way it situation it’s true
0:28:06.320,0:28:09.919
that’s true
0:28:07.040,0:28:11.090
but it is alright that’s for sure it is
0:28:09.919,0:28:15.559
yeah
0:28:11.090,0:28:17.210
pay taxes so I wanted to go into how
0:28:15.559,0:28:19.610
they got rich after the prohibition
0:28:17.210,0:28:22.490
because kind gets interesting on their
0:28:19.610,0:28:26.179
interest rates but after the prohibition
0:28:22.490,0:28:28.250
they continued doing sales of other
0:28:26.179,0:28:30.530
illegal drugs cuz things like cocaine
0:28:28.250,0:28:32.059
are still illegal heroin I’m gonna face
0:28:30.530,0:28:33.950
old heroin but they’re selling other
0:28:32.059,0:28:39.020
legal drugs they do a lot of gambling
0:28:33.950,0:28:40.970
later on they will open up a lot of
0:28:39.020,0:28:42.799
casinos this is like later generations
0:28:40.970,0:28:44.480
of the Mafia have done this and they
0:28:42.799,0:28:47.809
operate casinos they still do
0:28:44.480,0:28:51.950
prostitution rings and then during the
0:28:47.809,0:28:54.860
Great Depression they were huge on loan
0:28:51.950,0:28:58.160
sharking because they had so much money
0:28:54.860,0:29:00.110
so what they would do is a lot of people
0:28:58.160,0:29:01.760
and businesses couldn’t get loans so
0:29:00.110,0:29:03.470
they would take the money that they got
0:29:01.760,0:29:06.190
from blue legging and start lending that
0:29:03.470,0:29:10.880
out and really high interest rates and
0:29:06.190,0:29:13.880
the rates were about 20% plus but get
0:29:10.880,0:29:15.919
this that interest rate that the Mafia
0:29:13.880,0:29:17.960
was charging that is the interest rate
0:29:15.919,0:29:19.779
on my credit card right now it’s 20%
0:29:17.960,0:29:23.169
months yeah
0:29:19.779,0:29:24.849
and it’s very similar to what credit
0:29:23.169,0:29:27.249
card charges credit card companies will
0:29:24.849,0:29:28.779
charge over spenders with bad credit and
0:29:27.249,0:29:29.529
I’m not I don’t overspend and I don’t
0:29:28.779,0:29:30.759
have bad credit
0:29:29.529,0:29:33.279
I think they just update because I’m
0:29:30.759,0:29:35.710
always on time so it’s like if I mess up
0:29:33.279,0:29:39.629
they can profit but credit card
0:29:35.710,0:29:39.629
companies in the Mafia very similar
0:29:42.269,0:29:48.460
modern-day Italy
0:29:44.320,0:29:49.659
Margy mafia is their new yeah that could
0:29:48.460,0:30:01.779
be what they’re doing today is they’re
0:29:49.659,0:30:03.759
just operating credit card basically pay
0:30:01.779,0:30:05.349
off your credit card is what I’m saying
0:30:03.759,0:30:08.889
and if you didn’t pay off your credit
0:30:05.349,0:30:10.899
cards or your loans from the Mafia they
0:30:08.889,0:30:12.609
wouldn’t like self-harm on you not so
0:30:10.899,0:30:14.529
far students like harm on you and then
0:30:12.609,0:30:17.649
they would also take a percentage chunk
0:30:14.529,0:30:21.089
of your business which is another good
0:30:17.649,0:30:23.739
business move to take a chunk of suits
0:30:21.089,0:30:25.659
but no I yeah I feel like I hear like oh
0:30:23.739,0:30:28.839
that business is run by the Mafia and
0:30:25.659,0:30:31.659
they control this whole like ship meat
0:30:28.839,0:30:33.070
packing industry and shipping and that’s
0:30:31.659,0:30:35.710
probably is that how it happened is like
0:30:33.070,0:30:38.679
they kind of acquire all these yeah they
0:30:35.710,0:30:42.749
just they acquire partial bits of other
0:30:38.679,0:30:47.349
businesses and I do have an interesting
0:30:42.749,0:30:48.969
fact that eventually I don’t think this
0:30:47.349,0:30:50.739
was in the 30s I think it was in the 50s
0:30:48.969,0:30:53.349
but eventually the five families in New
0:30:50.739,0:30:55.899
York became so powerful that government
0:30:53.349,0:30:57.879
officials couldn’t build or do any
0:30:55.899,0:31:00.010
construction without consulting the
0:30:57.879,0:31:01.390
Mafia first
0:31:00.010,0:31:02.800
because if it would affect their
0:31:01.390,0:31:06.580
businesses or something you’d have
0:31:02.800,0:31:08.320
trouble yeah so that’s how much power
0:31:06.580,0:31:11.830
they had and hopefully that wasn’t in
0:31:08.320,0:31:14.860
the 50s but I have i from my memory of
0:31:11.830,0:31:22.570
that research I think it wasn’t in the
0:31:14.860,0:31:24.790
30s oh okay yeah and then they also may
0:31:22.570,0:31:27.760
or may not have kidnapped Charles
0:31:24.790,0:31:30.220
Lindbergh’s infant cyan 450 Qasim told
0:31:27.760,0:31:32.860
her oh yeah there’s so much like
0:31:30.220,0:31:36.160
conspiracy theories could have been them
0:31:32.860,0:31:37.900
I feel like that’s 100% likely very
0:31:36.160,0:31:40.390
unfortunate if you’re not familiar with
0:31:37.900,0:31:42.850
that story Charles Lindbergh infant son
0:31:40.390,0:31:45.670
gets kidnapped and he pays the ransom
0:31:42.850,0:31:49.660
for $50,000 but then later they find his
0:31:45.670,0:31:51.370
infant son yeah it was really sad that’s
0:31:49.660,0:31:53.590
right there’s a lot of different
0:31:51.370,0:31:55.090
theories about that one man that might
0:31:53.590,0:31:57.910
not have been the loss yet if it wasn’t
0:31:55.090,0:32:03.790
mafia I’m sorry I just delivering news
0:31:57.910,0:32:06.930
it yeah all right and so today like I
0:32:03.790,0:32:10.060
said the mafia is still in operation
0:32:06.930,0:32:12.010
they’re estimated that in 2002 the Mafia
0:32:10.060,0:32:16.090
made at least 50 billion a year
0:32:12.010,0:32:18.250
so in 22 20 18 years later who knows how
0:32:16.090,0:32:21.280
much they’re making there’s still about
0:32:18.250,0:32:23.320
3,000 membranes left mostly in Chicago
0:32:21.280,0:32:27.760
Philadelphia in New York City you
0:32:23.320,0:32:28.550
probably passed a mafia member it I’m
0:32:27.760,0:32:32.510
afraid
0:32:28.550,0:32:32.510
[Laughter]
0:32:32.640,0:32:38.830
yeah today they also I know again
0:32:36.280,0:32:41.410
another good business tactic they
0:32:38.830,0:32:43.420
outsource a lot of their work which is
0:32:41.410,0:32:46.200
great like you’re trying to start a
0:32:43.420,0:32:48.490
business outsourcing your work is like
0:32:46.200,0:32:50.560
they’re really running efficiently so
0:32:48.490,0:32:52.360
they’ll do it they’ll outsource to biker
0:32:50.560,0:32:54.760
gangs and other organized crimes I
0:32:52.360,0:32:56.500
didn’t really this biker gangs organized
0:32:54.760,0:32:58.630
crimes I thought they were just people
0:32:56.500,0:33:01.750
that liked to ride bikes together I
0:32:58.630,0:33:02.890
think there’s like very like intense I
0:33:01.750,0:33:06.040
think there are definitely like biker
0:33:02.890,0:33:09.520
like gangs where they’re like they do a
0:33:06.040,0:33:11.020
lot of legal stuff um but then I think
0:33:09.520,0:33:12.430
they’re all just the guys are like
0:33:11.020,0:33:13.540
they’re right there are motorcycles
0:33:12.430,0:33:15.490
together
0:33:13.540,0:33:20.260
if you see like people on the highway to
0:33:15.490,0:33:26.050
like you know don’t automatically please
0:33:20.260,0:33:28.570
but no ya know lots of ya
0:33:26.050,0:33:30.190
lots of discoveries is the organized
0:33:28.570,0:33:33.700
crime world that you did not know
0:33:30.190,0:33:36.880
existed anyways yeah and the only thing
0:33:33.700,0:33:40.060
that kind of unifies the mafias is this
0:33:36.880,0:33:42.670
thing called the omerta or oast okay and
0:33:40.060,0:33:45.130
that is basically an oath that’s like if
0:33:42.670,0:33:46.660
someone asks you questions don’t talk if
0:33:45.130,0:33:48.280
they ask the questions and you know
0:33:46.660,0:33:49.780
something don’t talk and they ask
0:33:48.280,0:33:52.300
questions and you don’t know something
0:33:49.780,0:33:54.040
don’t talk yes always don’t open your
0:33:52.300,0:33:58.540
mouth and that’s the oath that mafia
0:33:54.040,0:34:04.900
members take and so the Commission which
0:33:58.540,0:34:12.639
is in oh wait the Commission is the New
0:34:04.900,0:34:13.210
York let me like this a real quick right
0:34:12.639,0:34:15.310
okay
0:34:13.210,0:34:17.260
the Commission is the New York so when
0:34:15.310,0:34:19.510
right when I talked about Lucky Luciano
0:34:17.260,0:34:20.740
who is the head of the five families
0:34:19.510,0:34:22.419
that and ended up being called the
0:34:20.740,0:34:26.169
Commission’s so the Commission which is
0:34:22.419,0:34:28.750
that New York collection of families
0:34:26.169,0:34:30.879
yeah that’s still reported to exist and
0:34:28.750,0:34:33.040
its current membership though is only
0:34:30.879,0:34:37.510
compromised of the five families and the
0:34:33.040,0:34:39.550
Chicago Outfit so Wow and I’m certain to
0:34:37.510,0:34:43.990
the Thayer profiting off of Cove in
0:34:39.550,0:34:48.310
nineteen stuff they have like a like a
0:34:43.990,0:34:49.929
mask face mask of being when everyone’s
0:34:48.310,0:34:52.270
buying out face masks didn’t like price
0:34:49.929,0:34:55.600
gouging I was like who would do this and
0:34:52.270,0:34:59.800
I’m like ah the Mafia would probably be
0:34:55.600,0:35:03.340
into that like I know that yeah I guess
0:34:59.800,0:35:05.200
I never really yeah that’s crazy though
0:35:03.340,0:35:06.610
because I guess I assumed like okay
0:35:05.200,0:35:08.830
maybe there’s so like smaller mock
0:35:06.610,0:35:10.660
yesterday but you said in 2002 they were
0:35:08.830,0:35:13.510
making like billions of dollars though
0:35:10.660,0:35:16.990
right so Lana they don’t realize that
0:35:13.510,0:35:18.640
the Mafia is still making so much money
0:35:16.990,0:35:19.840
and it’s so like so powerful tit because
0:35:18.640,0:35:23.140
you don’t really hear about it I feel
0:35:19.840,0:35:24.040
like now there are just so many that we
0:35:23.140,0:35:27.230
have to worry about
0:35:24.040,0:35:29.240
and so maybe because of that
0:35:27.230,0:35:31.640
yeah and the thing is too right I talked
0:35:29.240,0:35:34.400
about how they started operating casinos
0:35:31.640,0:35:37.820
and casinos make a lot of money yeah yes
0:35:34.400,0:35:41.450
and you know if they’re still existing
0:35:37.820,0:35:43.190
today and evading taxes or anything so
0:35:41.450,0:35:44.960
with all that money they made in the
0:35:43.190,0:35:47.270
Prohibition I’m sure they’re using that
0:35:44.960,0:35:49.480
to continue I wonder why we don’t talk
0:35:47.270,0:35:52.190
about it as much anymore though you know
0:35:49.480,0:35:53.840
like a hush-hush thing we also will
0:35:52.190,0:35:55.760
memorize it too much in Hollywood this
0:35:53.840,0:35:57.380
is actually this is crime this is not
0:35:55.760,0:36:00.020
good you’re taking advantage of like
0:35:57.380,0:36:03.470
helpless people and we make it seem
0:36:00.020,0:36:07.780
really cool but it’s not yeah it’s not
0:36:03.470,0:36:07.780
cool guys don’t don’t join the Mafia
0:36:08.950,0:36:17.359
that’s our official stance yeah that’s
0:36:14.060,0:36:19.580
the Mafia in a nutshell so interesting I
0:36:17.359,0:36:20.150
love it great job thank you for sharing
0:36:19.580,0:36:23.869
that
0:36:20.150,0:36:25.900
okay the problem pay your taxes and pay
0:36:23.869,0:36:28.720
off your credit cards so in the Mafia
0:36:25.900,0:36:48.460
thanks for listening
0:36:28.720,0:36:48.460
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